Current TMO + RSRD versions

Overkill · 03-19-15, 03:48 PM

Howdy fellas. I'm setting up a new computer and am in the process of downloading SH4 from Steam. What's the latest versions of TMO and RSRD and are there any necessary patches?

I greatly appreciate it.

HertogJan · 03-19-15, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overkill

Howdy fellas. I'm setting up a new computer and am in the process of downloading SH4 from Steam. What's the latest versions of TMO and RSRD and are there any necessary patches?

I greatly appreciate it.

As in.... already started the DL from that awful gizmo?

Please!!!!! Save yourself some trouble and get the disc version with extension pack which is the Gold version.
Latest version of TMO is 2.5 RSRD is v502 get the RSRD patch aswell (v5xx).

Overkill · 03-19-15, 05:08 PM

Thank ya for the info, sir. Yeah I have the disc...uh...somewhere...

Overkill · 03-19-15, 05:27 PM

Also...any other mods you suggest that I download?

HertogJan · 03-19-15, 06:52 PM

That mostly depends on what you like.

There are so many Mods around its hard to give advice, some like Mod A, others B yet others like A and B.

Its all a matter of personal preference really.

But make sure you read up on things, either here in the forum or in the README's which are included in the Mod's themselves.

Overkill · 03-19-15, 07:19 PM

Yeah I understand that. And greatly appreciate yer help.

I've always used TMO and RSRD in the past. The only thing I really don't like about TMO is that the Japanese tin cans are basically US/UK tin cans from the Atlantic. I can't seem to find the post from a few years ago about dumb'n down the AI a bit.

HertogJan · 03-19-15, 07:44 PM

You could go into the download section and search for the easier AI mod for TMO 2.5.

Either that or remove the Sim.cfg file from [Data]/ [CFG] folder.
Removing that file from TMO will leave the stock version in its place and should work... If it doesn't put it back.

merc4ulfate · 03-20-15, 12:59 PM

Why dumb them down ... the challenge is wonderful?

Overkill · 03-21-15, 09:29 PM

It's not so much dumb'n down the AI as it is making it where they can't see me when I'm under water, 10+ miles away, on a moonless night, with heavy waves, in fog, the engines off and silent running.

HertogJan · 03-22-15, 03:18 AM

Oooh.. Here I thought you wanted easier AI, my bad.
You have a choice either go fiddle in the AI-Sensor.dat or the Sim.cfg file.

For the .dat file you'll need a tool called Silent 3ditor which can be found here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219029 (Scroll down and you'll find it).

As per Sniper297 instructions these values need to be changed:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=112
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=113

If you're going to alter the Sim.cfg file (which is easiest) open it with notepad or similar tool and as per neilbryne instructions change these values.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=143

Comparing files can be difficult and tedious but someone made a tool for that too.. its called Winmerge and can be found here:
www.winmerge.org
What it does is quite simple, once a file is opened this tool compares them and show you where the differences are, depending on which file you wan to use change the value of the other. It even makes a copy of the original file for you

thegrindre · 03-22-15, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overkill

It's not so much dumb'n down the AI as it is making it where they can't see me when I'm under water, 10+ miles away, on a moonless night, with heavy waves, in fog, the engines off and silent running.

You forgot to include, "in heavy rain".

Sorry, but that's funny.

That is some serious sight, tho...

merc4ulfate · 03-22-15, 10:53 AM

I'm not sure what you all are running but I can use TMO+RSRD and get within 800 yards and not be seen. Normally within 1000 yards they are going to hear me well enough underwater. On moonless night I have been 800 yards from DD's and not been seen. It's a thrill ride.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
FJB_Navigation_Maps
FJB Color Navigation Map
Gyoraitei
Hull_Numbers
rocks small
plants small
Ship pack 1
Remove grain effect
Webster's Eliminate Floating Plankton for v1.4 and v1.5
More_DDs_for_AITorpedoLauncher
More_IJNDDs_AITorpedolauncher
Aircraft_reflections
11 New Ships + Yamato AA Fix by Miner1436
#5 Depthcharge Sound
#3 Submarines Splash Sound
#2 Other Clouds

Overkill · 03-22-15, 12:14 PM

Thank ya, HertogJan!

That's exactly what I was look'n for. Greatly appreciate it!

thegrindre, Yeah I forgot the rain.

merc4ulfate · 03-22-15, 09:00 PM

You should add the Harder escorts that comes with TMO.

What ever you may think none of the TMO escorts are as hard as running Operation Monsun and coming up against British escorts. Hands down that mod has the hardest escorts of all.

I love the challenge that TMO and RFB have with RSRD but their escorts are easy compared to Operation Monsun. The longest depth charge attack I have ever ran into was in Operation Monsun ... it went about 36 hours straight. In TMO I have never had an attack go more than about 5 hours. The Japanese have little in the way of good ASW. They also did not have Hedgehogs like the British and Americans ... I hate those things.

http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hedgehogs.htm

03-19-15, 03:48 PM	#1
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Current TMO + RSRD versions Howdy fellas. I'm setting up a new computer and am in the process of downloading SH4 from Steam. What's the latest versions of TMO and RSRD and are there any necessary patches? I greatly appreciate it.

03-20-15, 12:59 PM	#8
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Why dumb them down ... the challenge is wonderful? __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

03-22-15, 10:53 AM	#12
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure what you all are running but I can use TMO+RSRD and get within 800 yards and not be seen. Normally within 1000 yards they are going to hear me well enough underwater. On moonless night I have been 800 yards from DD's and not been seen. It's a thrill ride. Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5 1_TMO_25_small_patch RSRDC_TMO_V502 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC FJB_Navigation_Maps FJB Color Navigation Map Gyoraitei Hull_Numbers rocks small plants small Ship pack 1 Remove grain effect Webster's Eliminate Floating Plankton for v1.4 and v1.5 More_DDs_for_AITorpedoLauncher More_IJNDDs_AITorpedolauncher Aircraft_reflections 11 New Ships + Yamato AA Fix by Miner1436 #5 Depthcharge Sound #3 Submarines Splash Sound #2 Other Clouds __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

03-22-15, 09:00 PM	#14
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	You should add the Harder escorts that comes with TMO. What ever you may think none of the TMO escorts are as hard as running Operation Monsun and coming up against British escorts. Hands down that mod has the hardest escorts of all. I love the challenge that TMO and RFB have with RSRD but their escorts are easy compared to Operation Monsun. The longest depth charge attack I have ever ran into was in Operation Monsun ... it went about 36 hours straight. In TMO I have never had an attack go more than about 5 hours. The Japanese have little in the way of good ASW. They also did not have Hedgehogs like the British and Americans ... I hate those things. http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hedgehogs.htm __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

03-19-15, 05:08 PM	#3
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Thank ya for the info, sir. Yeah I have the disc...uh...somewhere...

03-19-15, 05:27 PM	#4
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Also...any other mods you suggest that I download?

03-19-15, 06:52 PM	#5
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	That mostly depends on what you like. There are so many Mods around its hard to give advice, some like Mod A, others B yet others like A and B. Its all a matter of personal preference really. But make sure you read up on things, either here in the forum or in the README's which are included in the Mod's themselves.

03-19-15, 07:19 PM	#6
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Yeah I understand that. And greatly appreciate yer help. I've always used TMO and RSRD in the past. The only thing I really don't like about TMO is that the Japanese tin cans are basically US/UK tin cans from the Atlantic. I can't seem to find the post from a few years ago about dumb'n down the AI a bit.

03-19-15, 07:44 PM	#7
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	You could go into the download section and search for the easier AI mod for TMO 2.5. Either that or remove the Sim.cfg file from [Data]/ [CFG] folder. Removing that file from TMO will leave the stock version in its place and should work... If it doesn't put it back.

03-21-15, 09:29 PM	#9
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	It's not so much dumb'n down the AI as it is making it where they can't see me when I'm under water, 10+ miles away, on a moonless night, with heavy waves, in fog, the engines off and silent running.

03-22-15, 03:18 AM	#10
HertogJan Weps Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 357 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Oooh.. Here I thought you wanted easier AI, my bad. You have a choice either go fiddle in the AI-Sensor.dat or the Sim.cfg file. For the .dat file you'll need a tool called Silent 3ditor which can be found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219029 (Scroll down and you'll find it). As per Sniper297 instructions these values need to be changed: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=112 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=113 If you're going to alter the Sim.cfg file (which is easiest) open it with notepad or similar tool and as per neilbryne instructions change these values. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=143 Comparing files can be difficult and tedious but someone made a tool for that too.. its called Winmerge and can be found here: www.winmerge.org What it does is quite simple, once a file is opened this tool compares them and show you where the differences are, depending on which file you wan to use change the value of the other. It even makes a copy of the original file for you

03-22-15, 12:14 PM	#13
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Thank ya, HertogJan! That's exactly what I was look'n for. Greatly appreciate it! thegrindre, Yeah I forgot the rain.