US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[vienna]

Originally Posted by u crank

I asked that question because I have read articles that don't paint that rosy a picture.

For example, this survey rates all the states in different catagories.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

According to this particular survey, California ranks 38th in infrastructure, 43rd in fiscal stability, 46th in opportunity and dead last in quality of life.

That's why I asked that question.

In other words it wasn't a political question.

You asked a non-political question in a "US Politics Thread"...




I've seen quite a few of those surveys over the years, and all I can say is there's a survey to satisfy every viewpoint, it just depends on who you ask, what you ask, when you ask, and how you ask...


Personally, while I do have some quibbles, overall, living in CA isn't so bad and, overall, is better than a lot of other states; how can I say that? Maybe its due to all those people for those other states who keep flocking to CA escaping whatever problems they're having in their previous home states. You bring up surveys: there was one a bit of a while back the CA-GOP cited saying large numbers of people were leaving the state because they didn't like it here; their survey, their results. However, if you look at state records of population changes, more people are coming into CA than are leaving, some thing the other survey didn't deem to acknowledge. The knock about high taxes, over-regulation, etc., still hasn't reduced the number of new citizens, the growth of business, or the overall production numbers of the state...


I don't think there is any state that has or will ever have a straight-across-the-board high percentile rating, so I just concern myself with where I am and what goes on around me, when it come to quality of life...


















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[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

You asked a non-political question in a "US Politics Thread"...

I have a rebellious side.

[vienna]

Gee, I never noticed...




















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[Rip]

Originally Posted by vienna

You asked a non-political question in a "US Politics Thread"...




I've seen quite a few of those surveys over the years, and all I can say is there's a survey to satisfy every viewpoint, it just depends on who you ask, what you ask, when you ask, and how you ask...


Personally, while I do have some quibbles, overall, living in CA isn't so bad and, overall, is better than a lot of other states; how can I say that? Maybe its due to all those people for those other states who keep flocking to CA escaping whatever problems they're having in their previous home states. You bring up surveys: there was one a bit of a while back the CA-GOP cited saying large numbers of people were leaving the state because they didn't like it here; their survey, their results. However, if you look at state records of population changes, more people are coming into CA than are leaving, some thing the other survey didn't deem to acknowledge. The knock about high taxes, over-regulation, etc., still hasn't reduced the number of new citizens, the growth of business, or the overall production numbers of the state...


I don't think there is any state that has or will ever have a straight-across-the-board high percentile rating, so I just concern myself with where I am and what goes on around me, when it come to quality of life...




















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Stop drinking the kool-aid. California net-migration is going out not in. The only population increasing in Cali is that of non-citizens.

Wealthier people and those from states like New York and Illinois are moving in by the droves to California while young people with less money are bailing out to states such as Texas, Arizona and Nevada, a report from the state’s Legislative Analyst’s Office revealed Wednesday.

The underlying factors of these migration patterns are not spelled out in the report, but the data analyzed by the state’s fiscal and policy adviser office offers a pek at some interesting trends.

Between 2007 and 2016, some 5 million people moved in to California and 6 million people moved out to other states — a net loss of about 1 million residents, the report relayed.

Even that is worse than you would imagine when you see where the people who move in are coming from.

People from 15 states moved in to California between 2007 and 2016, the report found, with most coming from states like New York, Illinois, New Jersey and Michigan.

So in essence the ones moving in are escaping even more poorly administered states like Illinois who is on the verge of a financial meltdown.

[u crank]

Is there anyone in Washington who is not involved in this kind of thing.

A former staff employee of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) has been indicted and arrested on charges of making false statements to special agents of the FBI during the course of an investigation into the unlawful disclosure of classified information, ....

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/f...ements-charges

The guys title and job description says it all...

At the time he made the alleged false statements to the FBI, Wolfe was Director of Security for the SSCI, a position he held for approximately 29 years. As SSCI Director of Security, Wolfe was entrusted with access to classified SECRET and TOP SECRET information provided by the Executive Branch, including the U.S. Intelligence Community, to the SSCI. In this position, Wolfe was responsible for safeguarding all classified information in the possession of the SSCI.

And who did he unlawful disclose the classified information to? Why his girlfriend of course. That would be one Ali Watkins, currently a New York Times reporter. Back in the spring of 2017, Wolfe tipped Ms. Watkins that Russian spies had attempted to recruit Trump-campaign adviser Carter Page back in 2013. Watkins used that leak to write a BuzzFeed article provocatively headlined “A Former Trump Adviser Met with A Russian Spy” The leak and the article were suspiciously timed to cover for revelations that the Obama Justice Department used the unverified Steele dossier, generated by the Clinton campaign, to obtain FISA-court surveillance warrants against Page.

Wonder how many more of these leakers will be exposed?

[Platapus]

Disgraceful. Disturbing lack of professionalism these days.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Disgraceful. Disturbing lack of professionalism these days.

It's more than that I think.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by u crank

Is there anyone in Washington who is not involved in this kind of thing.

At least he was just caught for leaking ...

Look what happens if you get caught lying to the US Congress, like Hillary Clinton and James Clapper.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/what...-congress.html

What happens if you lie to Congress

Q: Who has ever lied to Congress?

A: This might be a tough one to answer comprehensively especially because it is extremely rare to see charges brought. In fact, a study from 2007 found just six successful convictions of perjury or related charges in relation to Congress in the previous 60 years.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

At least he was just caught for leaking ...

Actually Mr. Quatro, he was caught for "making false statements to special agents of the FBI during the course of an investigation into the unlawful disclosure of classified information".

But you are right, testifying before Congress is a joke. Put these people before a Grand Jury and see what happens.

[Catfish]

Let us please put things in perspective.
Trump said that H. Clinton lied to the FBI.
He had and has no evidence. The FBI denies that she ever lied to them.
Next claim is that Clinton lied to Congress. However she did not.
https://verdict.justia.com/2016/08/1...illary-clinton
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...linton-lied-f/
They can just lie and call her a liar and worse, and obviously have nothing to fear.
Trump's and certain people's wishful thinking has nothing to do with facts or the truth. Basically Trump can invent any "truth" and make up any statement, and people fall for it. Because certain people already have an opinion, and then look for any tweet and sh!t to back it up.

[u crank]

Lying

-to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.

Disingenuous

-not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

[August]

Originally Posted by u crank

Lying

-to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.

Disingenuous

-not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

Then there is liar liar pants on fire.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

It's more than that I think.

Selling out your country for a few thousand dollars. Yikes

[u crank]

Originally Posted by August

Then there is liar liar pants on fire.

That's stand-up comedy at its best.

[Mr Quatro]

True charity is when you don't want anything in return

Notice that Bill and Hillary Clinton are no longer in the charity business