2014 chevy silverado vibration issues

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Webster

well I saw a printout of the parts film where they only two 17" wheels were the mag and the steel wheel with ss trim and it only shows it as one part number, there is no part number or anything that shows the trim as a separate part. at this point all I have to go on is what he showed me and told me and I cant see a clear separation or anything where you can see movement or separation between the trim and the wheel.

this is it, mine is part #1, its a black steel rime with a ss overlay trim to look like a hubcap http://www.gmwholesalepartsdirect.co...66&catid=30154

and this is what they actually look like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Four-2014-Ch...e88497&vxp=mtr

and yep, I have seen some of those crazy cars too, I have seen some rear wheel drive cars like that where you had to undo the motor mount on one side and jack up that side a few inches to be able to access the plugs for a tuneup lol

On Some of the older Mustangs with the big V-8, you had to cut holes in the wheel wells to get to the plugs because the exhaust manifolds were right up against the wells. I never worked on a Ford that didn't make me cuss and throw tools. It sounds like GM has turned down Idiot Lane too.

Originally Posted by Wolferz

On Some of the older Mustangs with the big V-8, you had to cut holes in the wheel wells to get to the plugs because the exhaust manifolds were right up against the wells. I never worked on a Ford that didn't make me cuss and throw tools. It sounds like GM has turned down Idiot Lane too.

my brother had the mach 1 fastback (early 70's) so yep he had to go in from the wheel well to get em lol

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Webster

my brother had the mach 1 fastback (early 70's) so yep he had to go in from the wheel well to get em lol

I never understood how anyone could back one of those up. You couldn't see squat out the rear window. You had to feel your way.

My '95 Silverado 5.0L has a tough plug boot on the #6 cylinder. It's right behind the dipstick tube and it's difficult to pull loose after 40k miles, much less the recommended 60k interval or was it 100k? I'll have to check the service chart in the manual.

ok, I got the truck back and they said they felt it but they didn't do anything at all to the truck because everything was normal and is working fine, this is what the service ticket said:

A CS FEELS HOP IN VEHICLE AT 40 MPH SEE HISTORY
0400 NORMAL OPERATION N/C

627 TEST DROVE VEHICLE AND FOUND COMPLAINT TO BE NORMAL FOR A SHORT WHEEL BASE TRUCK. CUSTOMER ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHEEL WEIGHTS ON OUTSIDE OF CHROME CLAD RIMS NEEDING TO BE REMOVED IF HE HAD A FLAT. INFORMED CUSTOMER THAT WHEEL IS CHROME CLAD AND THAT CHROME COVER IS NOT TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF IT BEING BONDED TO STEEL WHEEL. CUSTOMER TO RETURN TO DRIVE WITH DMA.

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B RENTAL LOANER VEHICLE FOR ONE DAY
100 INTS N/C

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C** C/S HE FEELS VIBRATION AROUND 60-70 MPH
0400 TIRES N/C

627 TEST DROVE VEHICLE AT SPEEDS NOTED WITH NO VIBRATION FELT. DID FEEL ROAD SURFACE AND EXPANSION JOINTS IN ROADWAY.

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so in other words, they aren't going to fix anything

[Wolferz]

It looks like they just gave you the old single finger weather gesture and kicked sand in your face while stepping on your picnic sandwiches.
I have a short bed and never experienced any wheel hop. The only short bed truck I ever had a problem with was a Ford. At certain highway speeds, the front wheels would start wobbling and you had to stop to cure it.
What's next?
A call to GM?
A visit to a Toyota dealer?
Get yourself one of these puppies?



A real man's pickup truck.

If your dealer slapped one of their stickers on your ride, I'd peel it off poste haste and replace it with some negative advertising pinstriped across the entire tailgate.

Originally Posted by Wolferz

It looks like they just gave you the old single finger weather gesture and kicked sand in your face while stepping on your picnic sandwiches.
I have a short bed and never experienced any wheel hop. The only short bed truck I ever had a problem with was a Ford. At certain highway speeds, the front wheels would start wobbling and you had to stop to cure it.
What's next?
A call to GM?
A visit to a Toyota dealer?
Get yourself one of these puppies?



A real man's pickup truck.

If your dealer slapped one of their stickers on your ride, I'd peel it off poste haste and replace it with some negative advertising pinstriped across the entire tailgate.

that's a little more truck then I need lol


next i'll try my local dealership and give them a chance to fix it. I hope they give it a try and not refuse to take it until after the DMA which means a GM rep rides with you to say he witnessed nothing wrong and its all in your mind.

if I can get it into a 4th repair, weather they do anything or not to it im pretty sure it will qualify for lemon law but since it is greatly improved from how bad it originally was I can see where they will try to to say im just being too picky. right now it always rides like its on a rough road surface even on smooth blacktop and the vibrations are not dramatic in any way to spill your coffee but they are still there and the wheel hop like sensation @ 40 mph is something new that only showed up after they started messing with it.

I will go out in a fresh state of mind and do some testing today and try to record things I notice because I am pretty sure I will soon need to start explaining things in detail to higher ups somewhere in the chain of command

[Wolferz]

I only wish I could take it for a test drive, Webster. Then go to the dealer with you so I could look those morons in the eye and sternly say "BS!"
To their explanations.

If you told them you had an identical truck at home that doesn't have this problem... They'd say; "Bring it in and we'll fix it"

PS: Considering the exorbitant prices on their current line of trucks made with Chinese parts, I'd say that you have every right to be picky. The Celestials just don't care about quality and might just be ordered by their government to provide sub-standard and unsafe products in all of their industries. We've seen it with the toys they make and other things more often than what should be reasonable.

Originally Posted by Wolferz

I only wish I could take it for a test drive, Webster. Then go to the dealer with you so I could look those morons in the eye and sternly say "BS!"
To their explanations.

If you told them you had an identical truck at home that doesn't have this problem... They'd say; "Bring it in and we'll fix it"

PS: Considering the exorbitant prices on their current line of trucks made with Chinese parts, I'd say that you have every right to be picky. The Celestials just don't care about quality and might just be ordered by their government to provide sub-standard and unsafe products in all of their industries. We've seen it with the toys they make and other things more often than what should be reasonable.

well not to seam racist but they are assembled in mexico now so there is no way to know what level of quality control there is but by my own personal expectations I automatic raise eyebrows at the quality of anything made or assembled in mexico or china with mexico being the better of the two but not by much.

I just keep reading how people get vibration issues just like mine after they raise or lower their trucks because they get the drive train angles out of whack. makes me wonder if this is the true problem caused by bad geometry they cant fix without a complete redesign and realignment of all the drive train component mounts.

my retest today confirms a wheel (hop, wobble, bounce) take your pick, at 35-45 mph most noticed at 38 mph and a vibration starting sometimes at 60 mph but mostly starts at 65 mph through 75 mph most noticed at 68 mph.

best way to describe the overall ride of this thing is it rides like you are on a rough road surface while you are on smooth blacktop but when you are on a rough road surface it still rides exactly the same.

gave my niece a ride home today on a 45 mph smooth blacktop road and she said she was getting sea sick with all the bouncing and wanted to know what was wrong with the road lol.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Webster

well not to seam racist but they are assembled in mexico now so there is no way to know what level of quality control there is but by my own personal expectations I automatic raise eyebrows at the quality of anything made or assembled in mexico or china with mexico being the better of the two but not by much.

It all depends on the factory and the workers one can have fairly good quality and one might not. There are plenty of crap workers in the US though. My uncles back in the 60's would work the winter months in Detroit. Lets just say that you hopped that the union workers where in a good mood the day your ride was put together. With a vehicle the thing might be put together just fine during final assembly but might have poor quality components. At the final assembly line they have to make so many in a day so they really do not have the time to check every part. Could also be the fault of crappy design. Could also be that the shop you went to does not know how to or does not care to actually perform challenging repairs.

As the old military joke goes "remember all of your gear is made by the lowest bidding contractor". That applies to anything mass produced really. Over the years as Americans(and the rest of 1st world nations) have become more and more throw away societies there is less and less incentive to produce a product that will last. Add on to that the fact that most companies are chasing every dollar that that can which usually means less concern about quality and more about quantity. Look at the pay that most factories give to workers it certainly does not promote quality.

[Buddahaid]

As unpatriotic as it may seem to some, one of the reasons I like my Honda is that their hybrids are made in Osaka for quality control reasons.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

As unpatriotic as it may seem to some, one of the reasons I like my Honda is that their hybrids are made in Osaka for quality control reasons.

The entire goal of a business should be to produce a superior product if they fail to do this they deserve exactly what they get. That really in my mind has nothing to do with patriotism. If an American made product meets the quality I expect then I will buy it if not I wont. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by Stealhead

It all depends on the factory and the workers one can have fairly good quality and one might not. There are plenty of crap workers in the US though. My uncles back in the 60's would work the winter months in Detroit. Lets just say that you hopped that the union workers where in a good mood the day your ride was put together. With a vehicle the thing might be put together just fine during final assembly but might have poor quality components. At the final assembly line they have to make so many in a day so they really do not have the time to check every part. Could also be the fault of crappy design. Could also be that the shop you went to does not know how to or does not care to actually perform challenging repairs.

As the old military joke goes "remember all of your gear is made by the lowest bidding contractor". That applies to anything mass produced really. Over the years as Americans(and the rest of 1st world nations) have become more and more throw away societies there is less and less incentive to produce a product that will last. Add on to that the fact that most companies are chasing every dollar that that can which usually means less concern about quality and more about quantity. Look at the pay that most factories give to workers it certainly does not promote quality.

well I guess it came out wrong, I didnt mean just because they were Mexican or Chinese that that was a problem.

what I meant by my statement was that in those countries workers are treated like crap and hardly paid anything and work in unsafe horrible conditions with inferior equipt to do the job most of the time so it conditions like that it is hard to put out a quality product no matter the skill level or personal pride of the workers doing the work.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

As unpatriotic as it may seem to some, one of the reasons I like my Honda is that their hybrids are made in Osaka for quality control reasons.

the ONLY reason I didn't buy the Toyota was they don't make regular cab trucks anymore. IMO Toyota is the highest quality vehicle made today compared to all the rest.

if I can get out of this chevy vibrator I bought im going buy a Toyota 5 minutes later, may wait till end of year and trade it in taking the loss if I cant get a GM buy back but im not keeping a vibrating truck for the next 15-20 years because thats how long I keep my trucks

[Wolferz]

My elder brother owned a Toyota pickup. After a few years, he couldn't wait to trade it in on a Chevy. YMMV

You may be at the end of your rope to the point of just biting the bullet and replacing the wheels and tires with some better quality goods from the aftermarket sector. Again, YMMV.

Have a look at...
http://www.carid.com/

You can always sell the old ones and their selection of rims is bound to make your ride look better than that factory crud.

went take a ride with the boat hooked up today and it has the same vibrations acting the same way so wouldn't that rule out their bogus agreement that its the way shortbeds ride im feeling since the rear suspension is under tension so it cant be bouncing from the smooth road its on.

if new tires and rims will definitely 100% solve the issue then I wouldn't mind eating baloney for 6 months and buying them just to fix it myself but I really cant afford to do that without knowing, but I may have no other choice.

what bothers me is it could still be a rear end or drive shaft problem they haven't even looked into checking anything else but balancing tires.

I was hoping the dealer would have a set of "pulls" tires and rims that I could buy under condition they put them on first for a test drive and the vibrations are no longer there, but the dealer says they never get pulls any more because people take them home and sell them. I didn't see anything on ebay or craigs list at a decent price, most want $1,200-$1,500 for 4 tires and rims and im more thinking $500-$800 is about the most I could do and im not looking for aluminum rims but stock old styled steel wheels with the trim rings that don't get corroded when the neighbors dog pees on it and they always need polishing. I never wash my truck and at my age im way past "pretty" wheels so I want no maint basic looking wheels.

[Wolferz]

What's the tongue weight on your boat trailer? Adding weight to the very back end will usually pull weight off the front suspension and you should feel a noticeable difference in the way it drives. Unless it's a really light boat.

I just reviewed the previous posts and all of the symptoms you described about your brother's Dodge, could all be attributed to those front disc brake caliper pistons being partially seized and not retracting the pads fully.

Dodge was putting those plastic pistons in them for decades. I doubt that they've changed that practice.
A pair of stainless steel pistons will likely solve those issues.
YMMV