USA freezes Turkey out of the F-35 program

Skybird · 06-13-19, 03:22 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48620087

I welcome the stubboirn deciison byErdoghan ebcause the controversy he rasied by that sooner or later will force the European NATO members to decide whether they want to alienate the US even more by siding up with Turkey - or want to give Turkey up, which is my preferred choice. Ther growing Russian influence in the region also will need Europeans to look less starry-eyed at it and hopefully grow a sense of more mature realism.

I must hope the Americans do not u-turn on their apparent decision to block the Turks out of the program.

The US and Turkey since twenty years co-author their shared history of growing alienation and drifting part. To formalise the split and throwing Turkey out of NATO, is overdue. A growing fight over the F-35 can maybe help to form constructive next steps to get there.

Catfish · 06-13-19, 04:40 PM

It seems Erdoghan just provoked the US by stating that he (not Turkey of course or its tax payers, he himself alone lmao) has bought the russian S-400 intercepting system.
Oh no how could he, with such a stable genius at his and Nato's side.

Jimbuna · 06-14-19, 05:16 AM

I doubt this will phase Erdoghan all that much, he has absolute control over just about everything in Turkey and lets be honest, this has bben a long time in its coming.

The choice for Turkey is which side being allied to is of most benefit to her and atm it might well be Russia.

ikalugin · 06-14-19, 05:57 AM

Well, more money for us.

06-13-19, 03:22 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	USA freezes Turkey out of the F-35 program https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48620087 I welcome the stubboirn deciison byErdoghan ebcause the controversy he rasied by that sooner or later will force the European NATO members to decide whether they want to alienate the US even more by siding up with Turkey - or want to give Turkey up, which is my preferred choice. Ther growing Russian influence in the region also will need Europeans to look less starry-eyed at it and hopefully grow a sense of more mature realism. I must hope the Americans do not u-turn on their apparent decision to block the Turks out of the program. The US and Turkey since twenty years co-author their shared history of growing alienation and drifting part. To formalise the split and throwing Turkey out of NATO, is overdue. A growing fight over the F-35 can maybe help to form constructive next steps to get there. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-13-19, 04:40 PM	#2
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It seems Erdoghan just provoked the US by stating that he (not Turkey of course or its tax payers, he himself alone lmao) has bought the russian S-400 intercepting system. Oh no how could he, with such a stable genius at his and Nato's side. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-14-19, 05:16 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt this will phase Erdoghan all that much, he has absolute control over just about everything in Turkey and lets be honest, this has bben a long time in its coming. The choice for Turkey is which side being allied to is of most benefit to her and atm it might well be Russia. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-14-19, 05:57 AM	#4
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well, more money for us. __________________ Grumpy as always.