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vienna · 06-19-17, 03:50 PM

Was Obama worse than Trump? It seems at least one GOP member is not shy about making his opinions heard:

Jason Chaffetz Slams Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions As He Leaves Congress --

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b01eab7a2eacc0

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u crank · 06-19-17, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Was Obama worse than Trump? It seems at least one GOP member is not shy about making his opinions heard:

I'm confused. Who should be insulted here?

Jimbuna · 06-19-17, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

On topic:
As i wrote i fear he will be president at least for four years, as someone else here wrote idiocy alone is not a crime, so just maybe there is no impeachmant. On the other hand there is a german proverb saying "Dummheit schuetzt vor Strafe nicht."

Stupidity does not protect against punishment.

Rockstar · 06-19-17, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Wasn't Obama going to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator? Whatever came of that?

He did, Trump is his puppet .

Sailor Steve · 06-19-17, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

This thread is about will Trump make it to the 2020 election cycle ...

Yes it is. Believe it or not, that was my point.

vienna · 06-19-17, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Stupidity does not protect against punishment.

However, that apparently hasn't kept some in the GOP from floating the idea as a "defense":

Republicans’ emerging Trump defense: A naif in the Oval Office --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.28b4eed77a15

(Note: the above story is from 8 June,2017)

What Trump Doesn’t Know Will Hurt Us:
The GOP excuse about Trump’s ignorance will lead America to disaster. --

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ey_affair.html

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Catfish · 06-20-17, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Wasn't Obama going to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator? Whatever came of that?

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

He did, Trump is his puppet .

@Rockstar i was astonished that you were joking.
Were you?

It took me two days to find you might take this for real? Obama against Trump? "Deep state"? A "left" conspiracy?

Deep state was originally a definition formed to describe a right-wing alliance between secret services and the military industrial complex, now the right media have turned it around and accuses "the left" for being exactly that

My take is that Trump damages himself without needing any exterior help. If there exists any "alliance" against Trump i would call that reason and common sense, no need for an allegedly arranged illegal alliance or other conspiracy theories. The general media are not automatically "left" just because they criticize Trump, it is plain neutral observation. The real left is much more direct and insulting. That the right now considers mainstream as "left" speaks volumes of what a shift has happened.
And the right yes-media, well no comment needed. I remember exactly how they called the other 51 percent snowflakes, traitors and "butthurt". They missed no low in their glee.

Still, if Trump does not commit a crime there can be no legal reason to force him out of office. And then he of course should stay. He is the elected president, and I still see no evidence among all those accusations, regardless of what one thinks of him. Other presidents have survived other media storms, but they were probably not so thin-skinned.

Rockstar · 06-20-17, 09:01 AM

On my god. To think not too long ago we would have had a good laugh at such a comment.

We've entered the era of the tinfoil hat

Catfish · 06-20-17, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

On my god. To think not too long ago we would have had a good laugh at such a comment. ...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...iness-insider/

So?

Rockstar · 06-20-17, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...iness-insider/

So?

Hey if you're into that kinda stuff then breitbart is for you.

Mr Quatro · 06-20-17, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Yes it is. Believe it or not, that was my point.

I believe you ... at least you ran him off

Onkel Neal · 06-20-17, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

On my god. To think not too long ago we would have had a good laugh at such a comment.

We've entered the era of the tinfoil hat

If you disagree or have an alternate opinion, lay it out clearly. Don't make veiled personal attacks.

Rockstar · 06-20-17, 06:58 PM

Sorry Catfish, sorry Neal, sorry all.

Sailor Steve · 06-20-17, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I believe you ... at least you ran him off

Probably not. He's usually a hit-and-run poster.

Subnuts · 06-20-17, 08:52 PM

Politics aside...
I'd say his chances of making it to November 9, 2020 are about as good as any other obese 71-year old who has the eating habits of a teenager, has a sketchy physician, has an incredibly stressful job which he cannot escape from, thinks that exercise is harmful, and uses spray-on tans on a daily basis.

Taft made it to 72, so anything is possible.

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