Das Boot, Uncut or "the original" ?

Bluesman · 09-14-05, 03:50 PM

Hi all fellow simmers! I'm sure this topic has been discussed earlier, but after a quick search I didn't found anything convincing.

To the point, which one do you (who has one, or both) prefer, the uncut, or the original mini-series?

I'm asking because the SH3 really got me interested in submarines, and as a few years history of enjoying WW2 flight sims (mostly IL2 series), I'm interested big time in WW2 generally.

As I haven't watched any submarine movies previously, I'd really like to watch the Das Boot, especially when I realised I could get one for 10-15 euros. ( I'm a poor student after all.. XD )

Only thing which is troubling me is, Â´which one?Â´

So please, share your knowledge and the possible dislikes of either one. :|\

TreverSlyFox · 09-14-05, 04:52 PM

I wouldn't mind knowing also because I've seen the reviews, but NOT from the Sub Sim Community. From what I understand there are actually 3 versions out there;

1. The TV mini-series of some 5 hours

2. The Directors cut of some 3 & 1/2 hours

3. The Movie House version of some 2 hours

My understanding is the 5 hour "mini-series" version is MUCH greater in depth in character developement. Not just the main characters but many "Side line" characters both in port and on the boat. This version is for the really "Hard Core" sub simer because you'll really experiance the "boring" part of a sub patrol.

The 3 & 1/2 hour Directors Cut version "rounds out " the main characters and you get a fair idea of what a sub patrol was like. Probably the one for the majority here because many of us would fall asleep during the 5 hour version.

The 2 hour "Movie House" version just leaves you wanting more which I agree with as this is the only version I've seen (in german with english sub titles). When I walked out of the movie house some 20 years ago I was stunned by it. But I thought there should have been more to it.

So, who here has actually seen the 3+ hour Directors Cut and the 5 hour Mini-Series versions and what's your "Take" on them? :hmm:

capt-jones · 09-14-05, 04:56 PM

splash out get em all :rotfl: but my choice is the directors cut

Ginger Beer · 09-14-05, 05:03 PM

The mini-series is the one to get. If you don't, you'll always wonder what you missed. Das Boot is as much about quantity as quality. Get the version that gives you the most...the mini-series!

america person · 09-14-05, 05:58 PM

get the miniseries , vs, and if you have too wathc it piecemeal(if you do that tho dont tell us

)i got the uncut version, and its rad awesome. if you speak german, fluently, with out translation watch it in geramn, sans subtitles, if yu dotn speak german, watach it anyway in geramn with the subtitles applicable to you, english french or spanish.....DO NOT WATCH IT DUBBED it klills it for you....

Trav

DedEye · 09-14-05, 06:37 PM

In Canada I bought "The Original Uncut Version" on DVD. It's 293 minutes long (almost 5 hours) and you can watch it in German or English in either remastered 5.1 or original stereo, with or without English or French subtitles. It also has the making of Das Boot with behind the scenes "featurette previews" (haven't checked this out yet).

How's that for options?

I believe this is the same version as the mini-series given the length (?)

One of my all time favourite movies

Floater · 09-14-05, 07:26 PM

Get both. Seriously. Watch the "uncut" version first, and then watch the director's commentary on the "Director's cut" version to get some background. They play the whole film through, with a superimposed audio-only chat between Petererson (the director) and Prochnow (the Captain) and a couple of others. Informative, interesting and entertaining.

If you've got a good sound system (I haven't), you might also appreciate the soundtrack of the "Director's cut" version, in which all but the dialogue audio was re-recorded from scratch for Dolby surround-sound. The voice tracks were restored from the original tapes, too.

The Avon Lady · 09-15-05, 01:10 AM

Very happy with the director's cut. Two thumbs up!

lafeeverted · 09-15-05, 01:34 AM

if you have high end audio and video, go for the super-bit version of the director's cut. looks like a different movie!

Kalach · 09-15-05, 02:33 AM

I think I have the directors-cut version, and it's great. Though the mini-series would be good to if you have the time.
As said before, watch it in German (with sub-titles if you don't speak german), It's really not quite right in English

The Avon Lady · 09-15-05, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalach

I think I have the directors-cut version, and it's great. Though the mini-series would be good to if you have the time.
As said before, watch it in German (with sub-titles if you don't speak german), It's really not quite right in English

Jah - I mean - yes. That's the only way to watch it.

kiwi_2005 · 09-15-05, 02:48 AM

Yup the Directors Cut is the best. I mean when a director puts out his version of the movie, its the best.

gdogghenrikson · 09-15-05, 02:49 AM

I prefer the uncut version

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-15-05, 02:51 AM

Director's Cut... Three thumbs up!

Gizzmoe · 09-15-05, 03:07 AM

My opinion is, once you have seen the "mini-series" youÂ´ll never watch the Directors Cut again.

09-14-05, 03:50 PM	#1
Bluesman Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Das Boot, Uncut or "the original" ? Hi all fellow simmers! I'm sure this topic has been discussed earlier, but after a quick search I didn't found anything convincing. To the point, which one do you (who has one, or both) prefer, the uncut, or the original mini-series? I'm asking because the SH3 really got me interested in submarines, and as a few years history of enjoying WW2 flight sims (mostly IL2 series), I'm interested big time in WW2 generally. As I haven't watched any submarine movies previously, I'd really like to watch the Das Boot, especially when I realised I could get one for 10-15 euros. ( I'm a poor student after all.. XD ) Only thing which is troubling me is, Â´which one?Â´ So please, share your knowledge and the possible dislikes of either one. :\|\

09-14-05, 04:52 PM	#2
TreverSlyFox Bosun Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 65 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't mind knowing also because I've seen the reviews, but NOT from the Sub Sim Community. From what I understand there are actually 3 versions out there; 1. The TV mini-series of some 5 hours 2. The Directors cut of some 3 & 1/2 hours 3. The Movie House version of some 2 hours My understanding is the 5 hour "mini-series" version is MUCH greater in depth in character developement. Not just the main characters but many "Side line" characters both in port and on the boat. This version is for the really "Hard Core" sub simer because you'll really experiance the "boring" part of a sub patrol. The 3 & 1/2 hour Directors Cut version "rounds out " the main characters and you get a fair idea of what a sub patrol was like. Probably the one for the majority here because many of us would fall asleep during the 5 hour version. The 2 hour "Movie House" version just leaves you wanting more which I agree with as this is the only version I've seen (in german with english sub titles). When I walked out of the movie house some 20 years ago I was stunned by it. But I thought there should have been more to it. So, who here has actually seen the 3+ hour Directors Cut and the 5 hour Mini-Series versions and what's your "Take" on them? :hmm: __________________ Be polite, be courtious, be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

09-14-05, 06:37 PM	#6
DedEye Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Edmonton Posts: 133 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	In Canada I bought "The Original Uncut Version" on DVD. It's 293 minutes long (almost 5 hours) and you can watch it in German or English in either remastered 5.1 or original stereo, with or without English or French subtitles. It also has the making of Das Boot with behind the scenes "featurette previews" (haven't checked this out yet). How's that for options? I believe this is the same version as the mini-series given the length (?) One of my all time favourite movies __________________ U-Boot Spezial Cocktail......neidisch?

09-14-05, 07:26 PM	#7
Floater Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: England Posts: 158 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Get both. Seriously. Watch the "uncut" version first, and then watch the director's commentary on the "Director's cut" version to get some background. They play the whole film through, with a superimposed audio-only chat between Petererson (the director) and Prochnow (the Captain) and a couple of others. Informative, interesting and entertaining. If you've got a good sound system (I haven't), you might also appreciate the soundtrack of the "Director's cut" version, in which all but the dialogue audio was re-recorded from scratch for Dolby surround-sound. The voice tracks were restored from the original tapes, too. __________________ Kriegstanz website Kriegstanz forum

09-15-05, 01:10 AM	#8
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Very happy with the director's cut. Two thumbs up! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

09-14-05, 04:56 PM	#3
capt-jones Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 109 Downloads: 328 Uploads: 0	splash out get em all :rotfl: but my choice is the directors cut

09-14-05, 05:03 PM	#4
Ginger Beer Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 41 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The mini-series is the one to get. If you don't, you'll always wonder what you missed. Das Boot is as much about quantity as quality. Get the version that gives you the most...the mini-series!

09-14-05, 05:58 PM	#5
america person Gunner Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: fairfax, VA, near D.C Posts: 93 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	get the miniseries , vs, and if you have too wathc it piecemeal(if you do that tho dont tell us )i got the uncut version, and its rad awesome. if you speak german, fluently, with out translation watch it in geramn, sans subtitles, if yu dotn speak german, watach it anyway in geramn with the subtitles applicable to you, english french or spanish.....DO NOT WATCH IT DUBBED it klills it for you.... Trav

09-15-05, 01:34 AM	#9
lafeeverted Chief Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 329 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	if you have high end audio and video, go for the super-bit version of the director's cut. looks like a different movie!

09-15-05, 02:33 AM	#10
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I think I have the directors-cut version, and it's great. Though the mini-series would be good to if you have the time. As said before, watch it in German (with sub-titles if you don't speak german), It's really not quite right in English __________________

09-15-05, 02:48 AM	#12
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Yup the Directors Cut is the best. I mean when a director puts out his version of the movie, its the best. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

09-15-05, 02:49 AM	#13
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I prefer the uncut version __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

09-15-05, 02:51 AM	#14
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,875 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Director's Cut... Three thumbs up! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

09-15-05, 03:07 AM	#15
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	My opinion is, once you have seen the "mini-series" youÂ´ll never watch the Directors Cut again.