Julian Assange leaving? - Page 12

Bilge_Rat · 09-09-20, 05:39 AM

and yet mrs. Anna Ardin, i.e. complainant A, is still claiming that she was assaulted by Assange.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/...sweden-embassy

Why should we not believe her?

Catfish · 09-09-20, 06:01 AM

^ We can, although this article is from last year, and as i quoted things seem to have changed again.
I am not the judge nor accuser or defender, if they reopened the case and prosecuted him with hard evidence it would be all ok and legal.
But the whole case stinks to the high heavens.

Whatever, an extradition to the US would be illegal and is not on the table.
If the UK wants to play the US' lapdog and break the law to get better trade deals.. we will see.

edit: We should not only speak about a dead cat on the table (Assange), but also about what was being revealed (war crimes), don't you think so? Trying to shoot the messenger is only one side of the story.

Day 2:
https://consortiumnews.com/2020/09/0...s-examination/

Bilge_Rat · 09-09-20, 09:01 AM

That is a separate issue. For the reasons I posted here, I do not agree with the decision to prosecute Assange on espionage charges:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=117

Letting governments decide who is or who is not a "legitimate journalist" is a thoroughly bad idea. I don't agree with what a lot of journalists say or write, but I don't want them censored for political reasons.

If the U.S. has any proof that Assange is in fact a Russian spy, as the Democrats have been claiming since 2016, it should be released publicly.

Jimbuna · 09-10-20, 08:45 AM

The extradition hearing for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange has been postponed until Monday due to concerns that one of the lawyers involved may have been exposed to coronavirus.

I doubt a few more days will matter when considering how long he has been in custody.

Gerald · 09-10-20, 09:16 AM

All the speculations and "myths" that have been flourishing in his name lately ... are just hypothetical speculations and nothing else. That he should also "have" been a Russian spy is absurd.

Jimbuna · 09-11-20, 06:35 AM

Julian Assange has been told to hold his tongue and not interrupt court proceedings by a judge as he contests US attempts to extradite him from Britain to stand trial over his WikiLeaks website.

During the cross-examination of human rights lawyer Clive Stafford-Smith, one of Assange’s own witnesses in his extradition trial, Jules shouted out, “I’m here and by proxy” according to The Times.

District Judge Vanessa Baraitser, presiding, warned Assange to keep quiet, telling the Aussie: “Witnesses must be allowed to give their evidence free from interruption. In these hearings, things will most likely be said which you don’t agree with, and you would like to contradict it and speak about these things yourself. This is not the opportunity to do so.”

The judge added that “it is open to me to proceed without you”, a clear threat to remove the WikiLeaker from the courtroom if he kept on disrupting proceedings.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/...earing_london/

Gerald · 09-11-20, 06:51 AM

It is amazing that many countries spend huge amounts of tax-financed money on this, and in particular in this way.

Catfish · 09-11-20, 02:51 PM

Also amazing how someone can be in court in a country of which he is no citizen, and in which he did not commit a crime.

Jimbuna · 09-12-20, 04:30 AM

^ I consider myself to be neutral on the matter but he was convicted on charges of violating the terms of his bail and that ran up a £16million bill for the British taxpayer.

Jimbuna · 09-12-20, 10:40 AM

Catfish · 09-12-20, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ I consider myself to be neutral on the matter but he was convicted on charges of violating the terms of his bail and that ran up a £16million bill for the British taxpayer.

Agreed, but why did they even costly try to arrest and then surveyed him? Political reasons, USA, probably not to blame on him?

Jimbuna · 09-13-20, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Agreed, but why did they even costly try to arrest and then surveyed him? Political reasons, USA, probably not to blame on him?

I've no idea but when he was able to enter the embassy building which is technically the land of said country he immediately became untouchable and this would be the case in any other 'civilised' country.

Gerald · 09-13-20, 07:51 AM

He would have gone back to continue his kangaroo breeding. Seriously, if he had managed his commitments from the beginning in Sweden, there would have been no parody of this.

Jimbuna · 09-13-20, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The extradition hearing for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange has been postponed until Monday due to concerns that one of the lawyers involved may have been exposed to coronavirus.

I doubt a few more days will matter when considering how long he has been in custody.

Apparently it was a false COVID scare so the case resumes tomorrow.

Skybird · 01-04-21, 06:18 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55528241

No extradition of Assange to the US.

Appeal at the High Court possible, and after that EU Court for Human Rights.

Its high time to set him free. Even then he would live for the rest of his days as a hunted.

Lets rip off more masks.

09-09-20, 05:39 AM	#166
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	and yet mrs. Anna Ardin, i.e. complainant A, is still claiming that she was assaulted by Assange. https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/...sweden-embassy Why should we not believe her? __________________

09-09-20, 06:01 AM	#167
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,901 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ We can, although this article is from last year, and as i quoted things seem to have changed again. I am not the judge nor accuser or defender, if they reopened the case and prosecuted him with hard evidence it would be all ok and legal. But the whole case stinks to the high heavens. Whatever, an extradition to the US would be illegal and is not on the table. If the UK wants to play the US' lapdog and break the law to get better trade deals.. we will see. edit: We should not only speak about a dead cat on the table (Assange), but also about what was being revealed (war crimes), don't you think so? Trying to shoot the messenger is only one side of the story. Day 2: https://consortiumnews.com/2020/09/0...s-examination/ __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-09-20 at 06:13 AM.*

09-09-20, 09:01 AM	#168
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	That is a separate issue. For the reasons I posted here, I do not agree with the decision to prosecute Assange on espionage charges: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=117 Letting governments decide who is or who is not a "legitimate journalist" is a thoroughly bad idea. I don't agree with what a lot of journalists say or write, but I don't want them censored for political reasons. If the U.S. has any proof that Assange is in fact a Russian spy, as the Democrats have been claiming since 2016, it should be released publicly. __________________

09-10-20, 08:45 AM	#169
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The extradition hearing for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange has been postponed until Monday due to concerns that one of the lawyers involved may have been exposed to coronavirus. I doubt a few more days will matter when considering how long he has been in custody. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-10-20, 09:16 AM	#170
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,235 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	All the speculations and "myths" that have been flourishing in his name lately ... are just hypothetical speculations and nothing else. That he should also "have" been a Russian spy is absurd. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-11-20, 06:35 AM	#171
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Julian Assange has been told to hold his tongue and not interrupt court proceedings by a judge as he contests US attempts to extradite him from Britain to stand trial over his WikiLeaks website. During the cross-examination of human rights lawyer Clive Stafford-Smith, one of Assange’s own witnesses in his extradition trial, Jules shouted out, “I’m here and by proxy” according to The Times. District Judge Vanessa Baraitser, presiding, warned Assange to keep quiet, telling the Aussie: “Witnesses must be allowed to give their evidence free from interruption. In these hearings, things will most likely be said which you don’t agree with, and you would like to contradict it and speak about these things yourself. This is not the opportunity to do so.” The judge added that “it is open to me to proceed without you”, a clear threat to remove the WikiLeaker from the courtroom if he kept on disrupting proceedings. https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/...earing_london/ __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-11-20, 06:51 AM	#172
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,235 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	It is amazing that many countries spend huge amounts of tax-financed money on this, and in particular in this way. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-11-20, 02:51 PM	#173
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,901 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Also amazing how someone can be in court in a country of which he is no citizen, and in which he did not commit a crime. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-12-20, 04:30 AM	#174
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ I consider myself to be neutral on the matter but he was convicted on charges of violating the terms of his bail and that ran up a £16million bill for the British taxpayer. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-12-20, 10:40 AM	#175
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-13-20, 07:51 AM	#178
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,235 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	He would have gone back to continue his kangaroo breeding. Seriously, if he had managed his commitments from the beginning in Sweden, there would have been no parody of this. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

01-04-21, 06:18 AM	#180
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55528241 No extradition of Assange to the US. Appeal at the High Court possible, and after that EU Court for Human Rights. Its high time to set him free. Even then he would live for the rest of his days as a hunted. Lets rip off more masks. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.