Subsim Narwhal Contest - Mod is now available, see post #662 - Page 16

keltos01 · 07-21-09, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Do a Shell operation on the top deck.
Do the struts as new objects.
Do one side then clone and Mirror them.
Add Verts to the top decks bottom edge as needed to weld the struts.
You may want to detach the sides of the struts then for sharp edges
if they look wrong in Game.

You shouldn't need the back sides of the struts as no one should be able to see them.

Creating new Guns is a simple process.
So I see no reason not to have them.

I intended exactly that, but the struts might be visible from the other side.. anyways, I'll do it !

it's Independence Day here in Belgium today, I'll be at Beauvechain Air Base :

http://www.mil.be/aircomp/index.asp?lan=fr

keltos

keltos01 · 07-21-09, 12:18 PM

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168b.htm

On this latest overhead view of the Narwhal class Nautilus, the guns deck appear circular, unlike the drawing/blueprint I used... anyone got his hands on a RL Blueprint for this boat ? do all boats in the class have the same deck ?

The slanted ealier picture I used can't show if the deck is round or pointed..

Nautilus :

Narwhal :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm

If rounded I'll just revert to the earlier version I made, thus losing +- 8 hours of work...

keltos

Hitman · 07-21-09, 01:56 PM

LOL I warned you

The more pictures you look at, the more variations you will see. Apparently not even the two boats in the class -Narwhal and Nautilus- had the same platform, nor did they have it unaltered during the war and when compared to their prewar configuration

As I said already - Make it round (Which is reasonably good) and forget the super-detail, a round platform will look like an oval from an angled view anyway, and that is also the problem with most of those pictures.

PD: The platform centre is round, it's the stretching to the deck backwards what makes it look oval.

Hitman · 07-21-09, 02:02 PM

keltos01 · 07-21-09, 03:27 PM

lol

round then, with struts and all.

but those pictures are highly detailed

why am I the one to find them everytime ?
doesn't anyone want this sub to look real ?

keltos

keltos01 · 07-21-09, 06:51 PM

looks at the tower : top's larger than the base

modified tower, 1943

Forward plan view of the Nautilus (SS-168) at Mare Island on 3 Aug. 1943. It appears she is being refueled.
additionnal tubes installed

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 03:04 AM

mare Island CA

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 04:00 AM

fitting out :

I'll probably be able to work some during my week of holidays as I take my laptop with me

now that I have all those detailed pictures, I can't wait to model it !

keltos

Hitman · 07-22-09, 06:51 AM

Quote:

why am I the one to find them everytime ?
doesn't anyone want this sub to look real ?

Damn it

I wish I could find all those nice pictures, where do you get them??

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 09:49 AM

Narwhal :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm

Nautilus :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168d.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168a.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168c.htm

main page for all US subs :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/04idx.htm

Hitman, I quoted the page I got them from under the pictures in a few of my replies, always quote your sources

keltos

Hitman · 07-22-09, 09:56 AM

Woooaaahhh

after years of looking at those pages I just realized there was a link to further pages with more pics

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

Woooaaahhh

after years of looking at those pages I just realized there was a link to further pages with more pics

I found out yesterday too

keltos

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 05:41 PM

decommissionning :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm

Painting by John Meeks :

RL :

I'l ask John Meeks if he would be willing to donate a picture of his painting of the Narwhal for our mod, he already donated his I-Boat paintings to our Japanese Campaign mod

www.subart.net

keltos

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 05:43 PM

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm

keltos

keltos01 · 07-22-09, 05:48 PM

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm

keltos

07-21-09, 12:18 PM	#227
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168b.htm On this latest overhead view of the Narwhal class Nautilus, the guns deck appear circular, unlike the drawing/blueprint I used... anyone got his hands on a RL Blueprint for this boat ? do all boats in the class have the same deck ? The slanted ealier picture I used can't show if the deck is round or pointed.. Nautilus : Narwhal : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm If rounded I'll just revert to the earlier version I made, thus losing +- 8 hours of work... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-21-09 at 12:37 PM.

07-21-09, 01:56 PM	#228
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	LOL I warned you The more pictures you look at, the more variations you will see. Apparently not even the two boats in the class -Narwhal and Nautilus- had the same platform, nor did they have it unaltered during the war and when compared to their prewar configuration As I said already - Make it round (Which is reasonably good) and forget the super-detail, a round platform will look like an oval from an angled view anyway, and that is also the problem with most of those pictures. PD: The platform centre is round, it's the stretching to the deck backwards what makes it look oval. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-21-09, 02:02 PM	#229
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	__________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-21-09, 03:27 PM	#230
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	lol round then, with struts and all. but those pictures are highly detailed why am I the one to find them everytime ? doesn't anyone want this sub to look real ? keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-21-09, 06:51 PM	#231
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	looks at the tower : top's larger than the base modified tower, 1943 Forward plan view of the Nautilus (SS-168) at Mare Island on 3 Aug. 1943. It appears she is being refueled. additionnal tubes installed __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-22-09 at 03:03 AM.

07-22-09, 03:04 AM	#232
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	mare Island CA __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-22-09, 04:00 AM	#233
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	fitting out : I'll probably be able to work some during my week of holidays as I take my laptop with me now that I have all those detailed pictures, I can't wait to model it ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-22-09, 09:49 AM	#235
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Narwhal : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm Nautilus : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168d.htm http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168a.htm http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168c.htm main page for all US subs : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/04idx.htm Hitman, I quoted the page I got them from under the pictures in a few of my replies, always quote your sources keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-22-09 at 05:56 PM.

07-22-09, 09:56 AM	#236
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Woooaaahhh after years of looking at those pages I just realized there was a link to further pages with more pics __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-22-09, 05:41 PM	#238
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	decommissionning : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm Painting by John Meeks : RL : I'l ask John Meeks if he would be willing to donate a picture of his painting of the Narwhal for our mod, he already donated his I-Boat paintings to our Japanese Campaign mod www.subart.net keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-22-09 at 05:54 PM.

07-22-09, 05:43 PM	#239
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Better blueprints http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-22-09, 05:48 PM	#240
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Narwhal pictures http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"