[REQ] 3D torpedo-room: Any modder interested in finishing it? - Page 20

bratwurstdimsum · 12-02-08, 09:24 PM

If you read what I have said mate, he is my GOD

and I will never shoot down his work please READ what I have written

. Of course he can do what he wants, its a pity we could not help him more.

If you notice the earlier posts you will see that it is us that have been asking him to put this in and that and this and it is I who has been asking us to back off on the pressure.

Anyway cest la vie. I'll tune back in in a year.

12-02-08, 09:33 PM

I've read your post, and others Mate.

And you, amoungst others just want some version.
I have no disagreement with you and those.

It's when uninformed posts are made that I try to
draw back the shades.

In the long run?
It's all good.

gimpy117 · 12-02-08, 11:18 PM

is GWX 4 for silent hunter 4????

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-03-08, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

is GWX 4 for silent hunter 4????

Yes.

bratwurstdimsum · 12-03-08, 06:21 AM

Agreed Mikhayl, but its no use starting from scratch , that would not make any sense at all. Perhaps if Tomi would post his files up then we can have a go at it ourselves. Should be no prob as you mentioned right?

Rockin Robbins · 12-03-08, 08:59 AM

That burp you just heard is a clue. However, if anybody wants to argue that Tomi is not entitled to make a mistake by his own free will, I'm willing to hear the argument. I'll just get out this popcorn and lean back the chair...

OK, here's the start. "Tomi should be forced to complete and release his work independently of any other mod he may wish to be included in because..." It could be the new SUBSIM contest!

Brainstorm! OK, you all lose because I have it:

I want a Tomi's* torpedo room to install in my fleet boat
Therefore, I have right to the torpedo room
Therefore, I have a right to Tomi's time and freedom
Therefore, I have the right to force Tomi to finish his work MY WAY.
Because my choice is better than anyone else's choice
I have the right to use whatever means necessary
To compel Tomi to be reasonable to my satisfaction
Start building the prison where he can do his work
Without nasty interruptions. We'll even feed him!
If he does what we want...
Then he will be free to produce the most benefit
For the most players of the game we love

Ain't freedom grand?

*Sorry Mikhayl, your name should go on the torpedo room too. Didn't mean to ignore your origination of the work.

It may not be "all good" as privateer says, but the alternatives are worse than the disease some are protesting here.

Rockin Robbins · 12-03-08, 11:25 AM

Actually, I've posted in the thread a few times and shown interest. But I'm not a modder, I'm a cheerleader. Where's my pom-poms? You have to put me not in Luke's column on this one anyway. I'll always default to freedom in any argument. Tomi is free to do as he chooses and we'll live with whatever results. He is the only one who can make the decision he did and I can't claim the right to question him. Any suggestion that the GW "took over" the mod is laughable.

Look at it this way. Whip over to the Ubi Forums and look at Ref's Type IID work that someone kinda pirated (they found renderings and posted them there ) over there. If you were Tomi and saw that, would you do what he did? I think we need to cut Tomi some slack and defer to his judgment. He did what he thought best fitted his vision of the torpedo room. That's good enough for me.

I think the reaction is mostly about the unbased conclusion that Tomi's torpedo room will only be released as part of GWX4 and not be available separately. Even that would be within Tomi's right to choose. I may not like it, but tough toenails. He does the work, he makes the decisions.

As I said in my first post, I am not in agreement with Luke's post, and the implications of knee jerk reactions against what Tomi decided are scary if they are thought out to their logical conclusion.

Rockin Robbins · 12-03-08, 12:18 PM

Sorry, Mikhayl, I just looked for it for ten minutes myself! Here you go, and you'll notice several posts down, there is Tomi drooling at this incredible work. If you (not you Mikhayl, it's a general question) were in his position, looking at this would you not want to cooperate? I would speculate that Tomi recognized incredible quality when he saw it and reacted as any of us would. I would speculate that the GW didn't prey on Tomi. Tomi saw the excellence of Ref's work and the GW didn't have to say a word. Quality speaks for itself.

Privateer, if you have any objections to the link to the post showing Ref's work, just say the word and the link's gone. My intent is just for people to attempt to put themselves in Tomi's place and to realize that they likely would have acted just as Tomi did.

AVGWarhawk · 12-03-08, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Come on, cut it with the flowers, that model is just stock SH3 plus a bunch of holes

Anyway, what was the point already ? :rotfl:

I was wondering myself :hmm: I gather it is over a door or hatch. Play nice everyone!

Rockin Robbins · 12-03-08, 03:40 PM

Stock SH3 has retractable deck cleats? I guess seeing the sucker out of water, when usually I'm too busy driving it to look at it makes it look plenty good. It IS plenty good. You contend that's a purely stock Type IID with a bunch of holes in it? I still think it's stunning in the context it's presented in.

You're the Type II expert. I have to defer to your judgment.

But my point was that Tomi was looking for modeling help and that post told him exactly where to get it. As a result he approached the GW, not the other way around. Hostile takeover it was not. Tomi sought help where the expertise was obviously available.

Now if Tomi vanishes from the face of the earth and in six months his body shows up with hundreds of wolf bites, I would say we could rightly complain. I wonder if the GW are responsible for Jimmy Hoffa too? And global warming?:rotfl:

Jimbuna · 12-03-08, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Now if Tomi vanishes from the face of the earth and in six months his body shows up with hundreds of wolf bites, I would say we could rightly complain. I wonder if the GW are responsible for Jimmy Hoffa too? And global warming?:rotfl:

Now that part really amused me

Nice one

gimpy117 · 12-03-08, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

is GWX 4 for silent hunter 4????

Yes.

will It also a address fleet boat realism?

AVGWarhawk · 12-03-08, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Now if Tomi vanishes from the face of the earth and in six months his body shows up with hundreds of wolf bites, I would say we could rightly complain. I wonder if the GW are responsible for Jimmy Hoffa too? And global warming?:rotfl:

Now that part really amused me

Nice one

RR, under normal feeding conditions, the wolf will leave only bones. Although, wolfs seem to understand that something about the bone helps keep the teeth clean and provides good calcium. Somethings in nature are just not explained by science. I suspect no body will be found because each bone tends to get carried off for consumption.

Play nice all.

How come I feel something brewing?

12-03-08, 08:11 PM

RR,

Leave the link.
Everybody likes a sneek peek now and then.

We've known about it since day one of it's posting.
It's out there and no since worrying about it.

I do believe that is the old version though.

Tomi_099 · 12-03-08, 09:48 PM

People I can tell you the Swinging chains are the purest juwel!

.

12-02-08, 09:24 PM	#286
bratwurstdimsum Sparky Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 153 Downloads: 143 Uploads: 4	If you read what I have said mate, he is my GOD and I will never shoot down his work please READ what I have written . Of course he can do what he wants, its a pity we could not help him more. If you notice the earlier posts you will see that it is us that have been asking him to put this in and that and this and it is I who has been asking us to back off on the pressure. Anyway cest la vie. I'll tune back in in a year. __________________ The convoy lights are dead ahead The merchantmen lay in their bed The thump of diesels hammers down In the oily sea-the killing ground His knuckles white his eyes alight He slams the hatch on the deadly night A cunning fox in the chickens lair A hound of hell and the devil dont care -Iron Maiden

12-02-08, 11:18 PM	#288
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	is GWX 4 for silent hunter 4???? __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

12-03-08, 06:21 AM	#290
bratwurstdimsum Sparky Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 153 Downloads: 143 Uploads: 4	Agreed Mikhayl, but its no use starting from scratch , that would not make any sense at all. Perhaps if Tomi would post his files up then we can have a go at it ourselves. Should be no prob as you mentioned right? __________________ The convoy lights are dead ahead The merchantmen lay in their bed The thump of diesels hammers down In the oily sea-the killing ground His knuckles white his eyes alight He slams the hatch on the deadly night A cunning fox in the chickens lair A hound of hell and the devil dont care -Iron Maiden Last edited by bratwurstdimsum; 12-03-08 at 07:45 AM.

12-03-08, 08:59 AM	#291
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	That burp you just heard is a clue. However, if anybody wants to argue that Tomi is not entitled to make a mistake by his own free will, I'm willing to hear the argument. I'll just get out this popcorn and lean back the chair... OK, here's the start. "Tomi should be forced to complete and release his work independently of any other mod he may wish to be included in because..." It could be the new SUBSIM contest! Brainstorm! OK, you all lose because I have it: I want a Tomi's* torpedo room to install in my fleet boat Therefore, I have right to the torpedo room Therefore, I have a right to Tomi's time and freedom Therefore, I have the right to force Tomi to finish his work MY WAY. Because my choice is better than anyone else's choice I have the right to use whatever means necessary To compel Tomi to be reasonable to my satisfaction Start building the prison where he can do his work Without nasty interruptions. We'll even feed him! If he does what we want... Then he will be free to produce the most benefit For the most players of the game we love Ain't freedom grand? Sorry Mikhayl, your name should go on the torpedo room too. Didn't mean to ignore your origination of the work. It may not be "all good" as privateer says, but the alternatives are worse than the disease some are protesting here. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 12-03-08 at 09:54 AM.*

12-03-08, 11:25 AM	#292
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually, I've posted in the thread a few times and shown interest. But I'm not a modder, I'm a cheerleader. Where's my pom-poms? You have to put me not in Luke's column on this one anyway. I'll always default to freedom in any argument. Tomi is free to do as he chooses and we'll live with whatever results. He is the only one who can make the decision he did and I can't claim the right to question him. Any suggestion that the GW "took over" the mod is laughable. Look at it this way. Whip over to the Ubi Forums and look at Ref's Type IID work that someone kinda pirated (they found renderings and posted them there ) over there. If you were Tomi and saw that, would you do what he did? I think we need to cut Tomi some slack and defer to his judgment. He did what he thought best fitted his vision of the torpedo room. That's good enough for me. I think the reaction is mostly about the unbased conclusion that Tomi's torpedo room will only be released as part of GWX4 and not be available separately. Even that would be within Tomi's right to choose. I may not like it, but tough toenails. He does the work, he makes the decisions. As I said in my first post, I am not in agreement with Luke's post, and the implications of knee jerk reactions against what Tomi decided are scary if they are thought out to their logical conclusion. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 12-03-08 at 11:41 AM.

12-02-08, 09:33 PM	#287
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I've read your post, and others Mate. And you, amoungst others just want some version. I have no disagreement with you and those. It's when uninformed posts are made that I try to draw back the shades. In the long run? It's all good.

12-03-08, 12:18 PM	#293
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Sorry, Mikhayl, I just looked for it for ten minutes myself! Here you go, and you'll notice several posts down, there is Tomi drooling at this incredible work. If you (not you Mikhayl, it's a general question) were in his position, looking at this would you not want to cooperate? I would speculate that Tomi recognized incredible quality when he saw it and reacted as any of us would. I would speculate that the GW didn't prey on Tomi. Tomi saw the excellence of Ref's work and the GW didn't have to say a word. Quality speaks for itself. Privateer, if you have any objections to the link to the post showing Ref's work, just say the word and the link's gone. My intent is just for people to attempt to put themselves in Tomi's place and to realize that they likely would have acted just as Tomi did. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 12-03-08 at 12:20 PM.

12-03-08, 03:40 PM	#295
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Stock SH3 has retractable deck cleats? I guess seeing the sucker out of water, when usually I'm too busy driving it to look at it makes it look plenty good. It IS plenty good. You contend that's a purely stock Type IID with a bunch of holes in it? I still think it's stunning in the context it's presented in. You're the Type II expert. I have to defer to your judgment. But my point was that Tomi was looking for modeling help and that post told him exactly where to get it. As a result he approached the GW, not the other way around. Hostile takeover it was not. Tomi sought help where the expertise was obviously available. Now if Tomi vanishes from the face of the earth and in six months his body shows up with hundreds of wolf bites, I would say we could rightly complain. I wonder if the GW are responsible for Jimmy Hoffa too? And global warming?:rotfl: __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 12-03-08 at 03:48 PM.

12-03-08, 08:11 PM	#299
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	RR, Leave the link. Everybody likes a sneek peek now and then. We've known about it since day one of it's posting. It's out there and no since worrying about it. I do believe that is the old version though.

12-03-08, 09:48 PM	#300
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	Swinging chains People I can tell you the Swinging chains are the purest juwel! . . __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com Last edited by Tomi_099; 12-04-08 at 08:22 AM.