UK'ers - Unmissable Film on BBC2

danlisa · 03-22-08, 05:51 PM

That's right, DAS BOOT starts on BBC 2 at 11pm.

KeptinCranky · 03-22-08, 06:23 PM

0.00 for me here in the Netherlands, but I do get BBC2, a bit late though, I'm glad I have it on DVD

Penelope_Grey · 03-22-08, 07:04 PM

If you ask me... and ya haven't... Das Boot is very missable. Ugh!

Generis71 · 03-22-08, 07:27 PM

Ahh.. caught about half an hour of it, don't want to watch it cos I missed an hour of it already. It looks soooo good, no wonder lots of people here hail it as a classic. Never seen it before, and seeing that bit I saw, I recognise parts of the sub from the game hehe.. also picking up bits of what they're saying.. and I can understand them hahaa... brilliant. Gonna get the DVD. Superb!

Sailor Steve · 03-22-08, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Generis71

Gonna get the DVD. Superb!

DON'T!!!

At least don't get the Director's cut. It's 'only' 3 1/2 hours long. The 'Original Uncut' version is the miniseries edited to a 5-hour movie. Get that one.

KeldorKatarn · 03-22-08, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Generis71

Gonna get the DVD. Superb!

DON'T!!!

At least don't get the Director's cut. It's 'only' 3 1/2 hours long. The 'Original Uncut' version is the miniseries edited to a 5-hour movie. Get that one.

True. I got both. And I don't really like the director's cut that much. Many in my opinion important scenes are missing.

lv426 · 03-22-08, 08:50 PM

A lot of the dialog (subtitles) is different on the bbc2 version compared to the Directors cut DVD, does anybody know why this is ?

Sub146 · 03-22-08, 09:15 PM

Hey , thanks for the heads up on this , i had not seen the film before and enjoyed it very much , i must say the ending was very unexpected

great film , i think i'll buy it on dvd now.

V.C. Sniper · 03-22-08, 09:55 PM

Buy the original uncut version sub146 and anybody else who haven't own the movie: http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Origi.../dp/B0001XAOLQ

von hally · 03-23-08, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lv426

A lot of the dialog (subtitles) is different on the bbc2 version compared to the Directors cut DVD, does anybody know why this is ?

thank god someone else said that
i thought i was going off my head last night...different subtitles gave a strange slant to the das boot ive watched a few times on dvd!!!

KeptinCranky · 03-23-08, 03:10 PM

I preferred the book anyway, recently finished reading it for the first time since highschool

Torplexed · 03-23-08, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

I preferred the book anyway, recently finished reading it for the first time since highschool

I find I prefer the book more nowdays too. Especially after reading that director Wolfgang Petersen and Lothar-Gunther Buchheim fell out after the author was not allowed to write the script. I still have the same battered paperback copy I bought in Junior High.

GlobalExplorer · 03-23-08, 06:07 PM

As other users suggested before .. get the uncut version. It's over 5h long. Get anything else and you will be missing out on something ..

Besides, I would suggest not to rest too much on the fact that Buchheim was disgusted with the film. Buchheim seems to have been very unhappy with the impersonation of himself (Herbert Grönemeyer a.k.a "Leutnant Werner" a.k.a Leutnant Buchheim), imo one of the weakest actors of the movie, as well as the role of Kapitänleutnant Lehmann-Willenbrock, a person that Buchheim seems to have been extremely fond of. Lets not forget that this was basically the story of his life, and after having read Buchheim's novels several times, I must say he seems to have been a somewhat quarrelsome person.

Anyway, imagine what this film might have turned into if it had been made in Hollywood, only then you can give the deserved credit to Wolfgang Petersen. In his hands this turned into one of the best war movies of all time (many claim it to be the best), and besides you get to see some of Germanies finest actors of the 80's in one film.

If you have not, you should read the novels. Don't forget there is "Die Festung", which is a 1000+ page continuation of "Das Boot" during the chaotic events in 1944. So lots of stuff if you're a Buchheim fan. Imo Buchheims style makes him one of the best writers I know, he might have become more popular if the german media had not labelled him as "revisionist". Mind in germany that happens to everyone who writes about the war and not apologizes in every second sentence.

Of course it's advisable to read the german original, if you can. I am a bit afraid the translation could be as bad as the subtiltles in the movie, which are extremely lame. In the original they used words of abuse in every second scene, but for the translation they seemed to have deemed this "too unbritish"

I 've read "Das Boot" at least 3 times, the "Festung" twice, and I 've watched the movie at least 10 times, so much that I know it by heart now

moscowexile · 03-24-08, 05:08 AM

GlobalExplorer: 'Of course it's advisable to read the german original, if you can. I am a bit afraid the translation could be as bad as the subtiltles in the movie, which are extremely lame. In the original they used words of abuse in every second scene, but for the translation they seemed to have deemed this "too unbritish" '

Interestingly, the Hollywood movie industry, after its then self regulatory custom, heavily censored the chiefly directed at US audiences 1942 British WWII propaganda film about the then ongoing Battle of the Atlantic "In Which We Serve", directed by and starring Noel Coward. Coward's language whilst playing the role of an RN destroyer commander was deemed by Hollywood to be particularly unacceptable: he said "damn" too often and all said expletives were cut!

Terribly bad show, old boy!

HunterICX · 03-27-08, 06:30 AM

ha, it was on the Dutch TV yesterday,
watched it (again!)

HunterICX

03-22-08, 05:51 PM	#1
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	UK'ers - Unmissable Film on BBC2 That's right, DAS BOOT starts on BBC 2 at 11pm. __________________

03-22-08, 07:04 PM	#3
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you ask me... and ya haven't... Das Boot is very missable. Ugh! __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-22-08, 09:55 PM	#9
V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Buy the original uncut version sub146 and anybody else who haven't own the movie: http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Origi.../dp/B0001XAOLQ __________________ I only need one torpedo.

03-23-08, 06:07 PM	#13
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	As other users suggested before .. get the uncut version. It's over 5h long. Get anything else and you will be missing out on something .. Besides, I would suggest not to rest too much on the fact that Buchheim was disgusted with the film. Buchheim seems to have been very unhappy with the impersonation of himself (Herbert Grönemeyer a.k.a "Leutnant Werner" a.k.a Leutnant Buchheim), imo one of the weakest actors of the movie, as well as the role of Kapitänleutnant Lehmann-Willenbrock, a person that Buchheim seems to have been extremely fond of. Lets not forget that this was basically the story of his life, and after having read Buchheim's novels several times, I must say he seems to have been a somewhat quarrelsome person. Anyway, imagine what this film might have turned into if it had been made in Hollywood, only then you can give the deserved credit to Wolfgang Petersen. In his hands this turned into one of the best war movies of all time (many claim it to be the best), and besides you get to see some of Germanies finest actors of the 80's in one film. If you have not, you should read the novels. Don't forget there is "Die Festung", which is a 1000+ page continuation of "Das Boot" during the chaotic events in 1944. So lots of stuff if you're a Buchheim fan. Imo Buchheims style makes him one of the best writers I know, he might have become more popular if the german media had not labelled him as "revisionist". Mind in germany that happens to everyone who writes about the war and not apologizes in every second sentence. Of course it's advisable to read the german original, if you can. I am a bit afraid the translation could be as bad as the subtiltles in the movie, which are extremely lame. In the original they used words of abuse in every second scene, but for the translation they seemed to have deemed this "too unbritish" I 've read "Das Boot" at least 3 times, the "Festung" twice, and I 've watched the movie at least 10 times, so much that I know it by heart now __________________

03-24-08, 05:08 AM	#14
moscowexile Navy Dude Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moskau, Rußland. Posts: 174 Downloads: 206 Uploads: 0	GlobalExplorer: 'Of course it's advisable to read the german original, if you can. I am a bit afraid the translation could be as bad as the subtiltles in the movie, which are extremely lame. In the original they used words of abuse in every second scene, but for the translation they seemed to have deemed this "too unbritish" ' Interestingly, the Hollywood movie industry, after its then self regulatory custom, heavily censored the chiefly directed at US audiences 1942 British WWII propaganda film about the then ongoing Battle of the Atlantic "In Which We Serve", directed by and starring Noel Coward. Coward's language whilst playing the role of an RN destroyer commander was deemed by Hollywood to be particularly unacceptable: he said "damn" too often and all said expletives were cut! Terribly bad show, old boy! __________________ "Die Lust der Zerstörung ist gleichzeitig eine schaffende Lust." (The lust for destruction is at the same time a creative lust.- Mikhail Bukhanin.)

03-22-08, 06:23 PM	#2
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	0.00 for me here in the Netherlands, but I do get BBC2, a bit late though, I'm glad I have it on DVD

03-22-08, 07:27 PM	#4
Generis71 Seaman Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nottinghamshire, UK Posts: 36 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ahh.. caught about half an hour of it, don't want to watch it cos I missed an hour of it already. It looks soooo good, no wonder lots of people here hail it as a classic. Never seen it before, and seeing that bit I saw, I recognise parts of the sub from the game hehe.. also picking up bits of what they're saying.. and I can understand them hahaa... brilliant. Gonna get the DVD. Superb!

03-22-08, 08:50 PM	#7
lv426 Watch Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 19 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	A lot of the dialog (subtitles) is different on the bbc2 version compared to the Directors cut DVD, does anybody know why this is ?

03-22-08, 09:15 PM	#8
Sub146 Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Essex , England. Posts: 53 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Hey , thanks for the heads up on this , i had not seen the film before and enjoyed it very much , i must say the ending was very unexpected great film , i think i'll buy it on dvd now.

03-23-08, 03:10 PM	#11
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I preferred the book anyway, recently finished reading it for the first time since highschool

03-27-08, 06:30 AM	#15
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	ha, it was on the Dutch TV yesterday, watched it (again!) HunterICX __________________