Strike on North Korea - Page 43

mapuc · 09-25-17, 11:41 AM

NK has taken it one step further.

According to the Swedish Newspaper aftonbladet.se

NK has threaten to shoot down every bomberplane that flies near the North Korean border.

It was the North Korean Foreign Minister who said this to the press outside his Hotel in New York.

Markus

Delgard · 09-25-17, 12:17 PM

Saying something is not the same as doing something. KJU has said he will level America...woop-de-doo.

But, as was said, emotions can get out of hand for the weaker one. Both are looking for a legitimate excuse. I know the short view will be grim, but, take a look at the long view. I am not going to get into a dissertation about it, but there is a lot to view.

Now, what about Iran? Are/will they be the same? I was on the ground in the Iran/Iraq war; pretty savage on the Iranian side. I earned my shoulder patch quite a few times. Things can get messy in Korea or Iran, or Venezuela in 10 years.

Jimbuna · 09-25-17, 12:59 PM

Just read this Twitter message from Trump and am simply wonering which 'they' he is referring to

Quote:

Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won't be around much longer!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41391978

STEED · 09-25-17, 01:08 PM

So NK has said America has declared war on them, just one question when was this?

What a load of rubbish.

Quote:

North Korea vows to shoot down US planes and says Trump 'declared war'

"The whole world should clearly remember it was the US who first declared war," says North Korea's foreign minister.

http://news.sky.com/story/trump-decl...lanes-11053222

mapuc · 09-25-17, 01:39 PM

The response from USA didn't take long.

This time it was Pentagon who wrote this on Twitter

""If North Korea does not stop their provocations, we will (Pentagon) Give the President various options to deal with North Korea, told spokesman for Pentagon Colonel Robert Manning.

(Not exact phrase, ´cause I can't find the Twitter from Pentagon)

So the first kid raised his voice and then the other boy did the same. I hope, I want to hope it stay that way-Yelling at each other. What I fear is that one of these two kids take a stone and throw it at the other boy.

Markus

Oberon · 09-25-17, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

So NK has said America has declared war on them, just one question when was this?

27th June 1950

STEED · 09-25-17, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

27th June 1950

Well I came across this..

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The U.S. Congress never declared war, thereby establishing a precedent.

On June 25, 1950, North Korea launched a full-scale invasion of the South after receiving the go-ahead from Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin. Until that point, the United States appeared disinclined to intervene. The year before it had removed its last remaining troops from Korea, and that January U.S. Secretary of State Dean Acheson had given a speech in which he excluded Korea from America’s defense perimeter. Nonetheless, the United States got involved in the Korean War almost immediately. On June 27, as North Korean troops reached the outskirts of Seoul, the South Korean capital, U.S. President Harry S. Truman ordered naval and air forces into action. Then, three days later, he approved the use of ground troops. Though the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war, it did not do so in this case. “If a burglar breaks into your house, you can shoot him without going down to the police station and getting permission,” Senator Tom Connally told Truman when asked if Congressional approval was necessary. As a result, Congress has not formally declared war since World War II.

http://www.history.com/news/8-things...the-korean-war

Oberon · 09-25-17, 03:09 PM

Mr Quatro · 09-25-17, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steed

On June 25, 1950, North Korea launched a full-scale invasion of the South after receiving the go-ahead from Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

Thanks Steed I didn't know that

This is another reason why we don't get along with Russia even today, uh?

Rockstar · 09-25-17, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Oh I for one dont see Nork government as much of a threat either. The threat is them towards there own. I just think were done playing games. They are either going to pull the trigger or crumble. Either way they lose.

Platapus · 09-25-17, 04:51 PM

Believe me, with a person like Trump in office, the last thing we need is a formal declaration of war.

Aktungbby · 09-25-17, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Believe me, with a person like Trump in office, the last thing we need is a formal declaration of war.

That is because having trump in office IS a formal declaration of war!

STEED · 09-25-17, 05:11 PM

^ You got me going there, where have I oh yes...

Platapus · 09-25-17, 05:25 PM

From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1C026A

Concerning our bomber flights

“That operation was conducted in international airspace, over international waters, so we have the right to fly, sail and operate where legally permissible around the globe,” Pentagon spokesman Colonel Robert Manning said on Monday.

So I guess then North Korea operating/testing in international air/sea space is OK. Right?

mapuc · 09-25-17, 05:58 PM

Wonder how I shall explain this.

I truly hope all this will end in a diplomatically agreement.

Should it however turn into a war I would if the war stay conventional throughout the whole conflict not be worried.

I know USA would as far as possible try to avoid civilians.

When it comes to NK I fear they will start sending lots and lots of shells towards the Capital of SK. or even worse, when they are pressed up in a corner and see no other way than sending what they have of ICBM and other missiles against SK, JP, USA and Guam.

It would be over in about 2-3 weeks if stay conventional or less than that. If it turn into something more terrible thing the war will be very short.

Markus

09-25-17, 04:51 PM	#641
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,960 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Believe me, with a person like Trump in office, the last thing we need is a formal declaration of war. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	^ You got me going there, where have I oh yes... __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 09-25-17 at 05:27 PM.

09-25-17, 05:25 PM	#644
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,960 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1C026A Concerning our bomber flights “That operation was conducted in international airspace, over international waters, so we have the right to fly, sail and operate where legally permissible around the globe,” Pentagon spokesman Colonel Robert Manning said on Monday. So I guess then North Korea operating/testing in international air/sea space is OK. Right? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-25-17, 11:41 AM	#631
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,908 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	NK has taken it one step further. According to the Swedish Newspaper aftonbladet.se NK has threaten to shoot down every bomberplane that flies near the North Korean border. It was the North Korean Foreign Minister who said this to the press outside his Hotel in New York. Markus

09-25-17, 12:17 PM	#632
Delgard Skipper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Saying something is not the same as doing something. KJU has said he will level America...woop-de-doo. But, as was said, emotions can get out of hand for the weaker one. Both are looking for a legitimate excuse. I know the short view will be grim, but, take a look at the long view. I am not going to get into a dissertation about it, but there is a lot to view. Now, what about Iran? Are/will they be the same? I was on the ground in the Iran/Iraq war; pretty savage on the Iranian side. I earned my shoulder patch quite a few times. Things can get messy in Korea or Iran, or Venezuela in 10 years.

09-25-17, 01:39 PM	#635
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,908 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The response from USA didn't take long. This time it was Pentagon who wrote this on Twitter ""If North Korea does not stop their provocations, we will (Pentagon) Give the President various options to deal with North Korea, told spokesman for Pentagon Colonel Robert Manning. (Not exact phrase, ´cause I can't find the Twitter from Pentagon) So the first kid raised his voice and then the other boy did the same. I hope, I want to hope it stay that way-Yelling at each other. What I fear is that one of these two kids take a stone and throw it at the other boy. Markus

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20

09-25-17, 05:58 PM	#645
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,908 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Wonder how I shall explain this. I truly hope all this will end in a diplomatically agreement. Should it however turn into a war I would if the war stay conventional throughout the whole conflict not be worried. I know USA would as far as possible try to avoid civilians. When it comes to NK I fear they will start sending lots and lots of shells towards the Capital of SK. or even worse, when they are pressed up in a corner and see no other way than sending what they have of ICBM and other missiles against SK, JP, USA and Guam. It would be over in about 2-3 weeks if stay conventional or less than that. If it turn into something more terrible thing the war will be very short. Markus