Strike on North Korea

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

So basically your saying that no one is sure we could knock anyone's ICBM missile down upon launch or in this case a high fly over Japan?

Based on currently released data. The current systems that are available work primarily on the terminal phase, catching the thing on the way down. It has a fairly limited window of opportunity because of the speeds involved.
There is one system which intercepts in the mid course phase and that's mainly based in Alaska, although there's a couple of launchers in Vandenberg as well. Neither of which is any particular help for Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missil...ajectory_phase

Of course, most info is still classified, which means it could be better or worse than the estimated figures, for example I've seen a figure saying that the SM-3 Block IIA can get up to 1450km altitude, but that was written back in 2012 and I can't seem to find other info to corroborate that. There's ranges listed, but you've got to account for horizontal as well as vertical range since it's unlikely that the SM-3 would be intercepting something directly above it.
There's also speeds to account for, since various missiles will be travelling at various speeds depending on their position in their ballistic arc. Obviously the further you want to go, the faster you need to travel, that's basic ballistics, ICBMs tend to go between 4 and 7km/s at burnout, so you've got a very narrow window of intercept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interc...#Flight_phases

It is really, as it was once described, a case of hitting a bullet with a bullet, which is primarily the reason why most early ABMs have a nuclear warhead, so you don't have to hit it precisely, just get near enough to it to kill it with the nuclear explosion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/53T6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIM-49_Nike_Zeus

[Oberon]

"Hello darkness my old friend..."

[Onkel Neal]

The media is freaking out, it's lovely. Nice to see we are promising to defend our allies.

[Oberon]

It's all fun and games until somebody gets nuked.

EDIT: On the up side though, the resulting millions of deaths, radioactive contamination and economic crisis will really freak out the media and the liberals, so definitely worth it.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Oberon

It's all fun and games until somebody gets nuked.

EDIT: On the up side though, the resulting millions of deaths, radioactive contamination and economic crisis will really freak out the media and the liberals, so definitely worth it.

Chill out man ... it hasn't happened yet.

Haven't you ever played poker?

[Onkel Neal]

Panic mode: achieved

[Jimbuna]

Well I'm convinced now of at least one thing and that is that neither side are currently prepared to take any notice of the pleas of China and Russia to tone down the rhetoric.

I hope Trump hasn't painted himself into a corner after the speech he gave at the UN.

Credibility can mean so much in the eyes of the world.

US President Donald Trump has told the UN General Assembly that America would destroy North Korea if forced to defend itself or its allies.
In his debut speech, he mocked North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-un, saying: "Rocket man is on a suicide mission."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41324970

[mapuc]

Reading Jim's comment have made me concluded that a peaceful agreement of some kind-seems very far away

I guess the only thing we can do is prepare for the worse and have a little hope for a little light in the end of this tunnel.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Oh, believe you me, there would be plenty of light, enough to blind you if you looked directly toward it.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Chill out man ... it hasn't happened yet.

Haven't you ever played poker?

I've been thinking of it more as a gun, if a guy has a loaded gun and he's got it aimed in your general direction, you don't taunt him to shoot it, and if you're going to draw and shoot him...you better hope that you're quick, and that you don't miss.

[Platapus]

Must suck to be assigned to South Korea these days. I bet a lot of GI's are sweating.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Must suck to be assigned to South Korea these days. I bet a lot of GI's are sweating.

Especially since the US military can't evacuate the military families and civilians since that could be construed as the beginning of an offensive operation and lead to the DPRK launching a preemptive nuclear strike.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Especially since the US military can't evacuate the military families and civilians since that could be construed as the beginning of an offensive operation and lead to the DPRK launching a preemptive nuclear strike.

Think about how a conventional war would be over in three days ... all NK strategic targets eliminated on first strike ... No NK air force or navy left when the NK army runs out of supplies and the war is over.

No nuclear fallout ... rocket man dead or missing in action. White flag is flown as the entire world slams America for doing such a vile and terrible thing to a poor nation like NK.

[Platapus]

When I was stationed in South Korea, our virtual mascot was the Tethered Goat.

Gulp

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Think about how a conventional war would be over in three days ... all NK strategic targets eliminated on first strike ... No NK air force or navy left when the NK army runs out of supplies and the war is over.

No nuclear fallout ... rocket man dead or missing in action. White flag is flown as the entire world slams America for doing such a vile and terrible thing to a poor nation like NK.

Lemme guess: And we will be greeted as liberators

now where have I heard that before.