In GWX, does flooding of enemy ships occur with high TC?

RoflCopter4 · 08-30-15, 05:23 PM

Since ships in this mod generally sink by flooding, and flooding probably requires physics calculations, will the flooding occur (and by extension will ships sink) when the TC is set to higher than 32x? A few ships I've torpedoed have refused to sink even after hours and hours of waiting at say 64x, and I don't know if I'm completely wasting my time setting the TC that high.

Andrakis · 08-31-15, 10:23 AM

I've noticed this as well. It seems to take an inordinate amount of time. Maybe that is just the reduced sinking speed in GWX?

CTU_Clay · 08-31-15, 10:38 AM

Maybe another fish in their belly will speed things up?

20000 Leagues · 08-31-15, 11:01 AM

I've run into that a few times. Flooding times vary greatly depending on the damage zones of the target ship. It is possible to hit the ship with an eel, but not enough damage to sink it. Sometimes it takes days for a ship to sink. So if you sit there with the TC at 64, it can still seem like it isn't sinking. Generally, if it takes more than a few hours, I feed it again.

Zosimus · 08-31-15, 01:54 PM

Salvo everything and don't shoot at anything under 8,000 tons.

Jimbuna · 08-31-15, 02:08 PM

In answer to your original question....YES.

RoflCopter4 · 08-31-15, 10:23 PM

Thanks. I hoped the ships in question would sink but they just didn't seem to want to. One of them (an ore carrier) was burning for a good 14 hours (fire seems to do nothing I suppose) and was listing a good 30 degrees but just would not drown. The other was a medium cargo and I got it to go under after shooting it a bit with my AA gun. I gave up with the ore carrier and just fed it another torpedo.

The ore carriers are big enough that I could see them taking two torpedoes but not so for medium cargo. In fact, medium cargo is quickly becoming something of an arch nemesis. The tough bastards just don't die.

Rambler241 · 09-01-15, 04:04 AM

Zosimus advised:

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...don't shoot at anything under 8,000 tons.

That's a new definition of "unrestricted submarine warfare" I was unaware of.

Kip336 · 09-01-15, 05:38 AM

After hitting an ore carrier with a torpedo, I generally manage to finish it off with some deck gun fire below the water.

I'm not sure how flooding is modeled, but I like to think that shooting a few holes on the waterline will help flood the higher decks, so it tips over faster.

also, make sure to only attack one side to help capsizing. It you shoot holes in both sides, itll stay more balanced and needs more flooding to sink.

GT182 · 09-02-15, 09:36 PM

I haven't run SH3 in a few years but I remember hitting ships and sometimes they'd break in two. Does this happen at all with this mod? Side note.... the deck gun wasn't needed to finish a ship off and send it to the bottom.

I'm working on getting SH3 back up and running this Fall...... hopefully.

Pepe le Moko · 09-02-15, 10:20 PM

Don't be too greedy with your eels.
It is tempting to husband them sparingly to maximize tonnage sunk, but really if it isn't sinking after 10-15 minutes, I just shoot another torpedo and get done with it.

scott_c2911 · 09-03-15, 08:41 AM

In response to the last question; Ive managed to crack loads of different ships in half with GWX 3.0 installed

GT182 · 09-03-15, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by scott_c2911

In response to the last question; Ive managed to crack loads of different ships in half with GWX 3.0 installed

Same here. But also modded SH3 without GWX. I've not run GWX Gold so no idea if it's the same as the other two.

Andrakis · 09-04-15, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RoflCopter4

Thanks. I hoped the ships in question would sink but they just didn't seem to want to. One of them (an ore carrier) was burning for a good 14 hours (fire seems to do nothing I suppose) and was listing a good 30 degrees but just would not drown. The other was a medium cargo and I got it to go under after shooting it a bit with my AA gun. I gave up with the ore carrier and just fed it another torpedo.

The ore carriers are big enough that I could see them taking two torpedoes but not so for medium cargo. In fact, medium cargo is quickly becoming something of an arch nemesis. The tough bastards just don't die.

I've noticed this with the fire as well, which is too bad. I tried to outlast a destroyer that ate a torpedo and kept coming... thinking it would burn up.

Zosimus · 09-04-15, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RoflCopter4

Thanks. I hoped the ships in question would sink but they just didn't seem to want to. One of them (an ore carrier) was burning for a good 14 hours (fire seems to do nothing I suppose) and was listing a good 30 degrees but just would not drown. The other was a medium cargo and I got it to go under after shooting it a bit with my AA gun. I gave up with the ore carrier and just fed it another torpedo.

The ore carriers are big enough that I could see them taking two torpedoes but not so for medium cargo. In fact, medium cargo is quickly becoming something of an arch nemesis. The tough bastards just don't die.

I agree. Medium cargo ships take too many torpedoes to kill to be worth the effort. Don't shoot at them. It's far easier to salvo a nice whaling ship worth 12,000 tons and send it to the bottom for 6,000 tons an eel than to hit a medium cargo ship with one eel and lurk around for hours waiting for the weather to clear up enough to use the deck gun or waiting for it to finally go under.

08-30-15, 05:23 PM	#1
RoflCopter4 Seaman Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 42 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	In GWX, does flooding of enemy ships occur with high TC? Since ships in this mod generally sink by flooding, and flooding probably requires physics calculations, will the flooding occur (and by extension will ships sink) when the TC is set to higher than 32x? A few ships I've torpedoed have refused to sink even after hours and hours of waiting at say 64x, and I don't know if I'm completely wasting my time setting the TC that high.

08-31-15, 02:08 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	In answer to your original question....YES. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-01-15, 05:38 AM	#9
Kip336 Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 119 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	After hitting an ore carrier with a torpedo, I generally manage to finish it off with some deck gun fire below the water. I'm not sure how flooding is modeled, but I like to think that shooting a few holes on the waterline will help flood the higher decks, so it tips over faster. also, make sure to only attack one side to help capsizing. It you shoot holes in both sides, itll stay more balanced and needs more flooding to sink. __________________ Kplt. Kipischovic Malifozik U-336, 2nd Flotilla, Lorient

09-02-15, 09:36 PM	#10
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	I haven't run SH3 in a few years but I remember hitting ships and sometimes they'd break in two. Does this happen at all with this mod? Side note.... the deck gun wasn't needed to finish a ship off and send it to the bottom. I'm working on getting SH3 back up and running this Fall...... hopefully. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

09-03-15, 08:41 AM	#12
scott_c2911 Engineer Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Midlands, Uk Posts: 203 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	In response to the last question; Ive managed to crack loads of different ships in half with GWX 3.0 installed __________________ KLt S. Cooksey commanding U-2528 ... .. -. -.- / - .... . -- / .- .-.. .-..

08-31-15, 10:23 AM	#2
Andrakis Watch Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 26 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	I've noticed this as well. It seems to take an inordinate amount of time. Maybe that is just the reduced sinking speed in GWX?

08-31-15, 10:38 AM	#3
CTU_Clay The Lone Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bellville, TX 77418 Posts: 710 Downloads: 315 Uploads: 0	Maybe another fish in their belly will speed things up?

08-31-15, 11:01 AM	#4
20000 Leagues Seaman Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 42 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	I've run into that a few times. Flooding times vary greatly depending on the damage zones of the target ship. It is possible to hit the ship with an eel, but not enough damage to sink it. Sometimes it takes days for a ship to sink. So if you sit there with the TC at 64, it can still seem like it isn't sinking. Generally, if it takes more than a few hours, I feed it again.

08-31-15, 01:54 PM	#5
Zosimus XO Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Chorrillos, Lima, Peru Posts: 401 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Salvo everything and don't shoot at anything under 8,000 tons.

08-31-15, 10:23 PM	#7
RoflCopter4 Seaman Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 42 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I hoped the ships in question would sink but they just didn't seem to want to. One of them (an ore carrier) was burning for a good 14 hours (fire seems to do nothing I suppose) and was listing a good 30 degrees but just would not drown. The other was a medium cargo and I got it to go under after shooting it a bit with my AA gun. I gave up with the ore carrier and just fed it another torpedo. The ore carriers are big enough that I could see them taking two torpedoes but not so for medium cargo. In fact, medium cargo is quickly becoming something of an arch nemesis. The tough bastards just don't die.

09-02-15, 10:20 PM	#11
Pepe le Moko A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 73 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Don't be too greedy with your eels. It is tempting to husband them sparingly to maximize tonnage sunk, but really if it isn't sinking after 10-15 minutes, I just shoot another torpedo and get done with it.