GWX (Grey Wolves eXpansion Mod) - Page 60

mariuszj1939 · 03-21-07, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grom

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Originally Posted by JScones

FYI screenshots of some of the fixes coming in GWX Patch 1.03...

As You can see names of the cities are in two different languages. Its just a small sugestion of changing them into german names as it looks bit weird.

Yes - I feel the same Gdynia, Krakow, Warszawa, Poznan and Hel should be kept as originals in Polish. Danzig and Pilau in German.
Captured cities in Europe shouldn't be renamed. Why any Western cities remain unchanged ?

KrvKpt. Falke · 03-21-07, 06:05 AM

All names on that map should be in German because its a German map! It doesnt mean that Warsaw or Gdynia were German but... you know i think that Germans are saying Warschau - not Warszawa, the same with Polish: they say: Kilonia - not Kiel...

mariuszj1939 · 03-21-07, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KrvKpt. Falke

All names on that map should be in German because its a German map! It doesnt mean that Warsaw or Gdynia were German but... you know i think that Germans are saying Warschau - not Warszawa, the same with Polish: they say: Kilonia - not Kiel...

Thanks for explanation how to say names in German language !
I know it - I have just 20 km to German border.
Please be so kind and check below thread :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=german+world

Grom · 03-21-07, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KrvKpt. Falke

All names on that map should be in German because its a German map!

Thats exactly what i ment.
Other thing is status of cities. Danzig & Pillau they should be marked as friendly to Germans, or at least Danzig should be marked as "neutral", and change into friendly on 1st september 1939. Then at least some historical acuracy could be kept.

Snakeeyes · 03-21-07, 07:56 AM

I'm sure this has been asked before, but any righteous youtube or other videos out there showing GWX in action?

danlisa · 03-21-07, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeyes

I'm sure this has been asked before, but any righteous youtube or other videos out there showing GWX in action?

Have you seen the GWX Pre-Release video? It's available here - http://files.filefront.com/GWX_Trail.../fileinfo.html

Or there is a video sticky on the SH3 Gen Discussion Forum - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=95000
This sticky was started before the release of GWX but later in the thread, most vids are GWX based.

Snakeeyes · 03-21-07, 09:59 AM

I'll have to grab it when I get home. Don't have that decompressor at the office.

Pysched to start GWX!!!!!!!!!!!!

MDE · 03-21-07, 10:35 AM

Testing is underway now and I hope to release the patch within a week or so.

And to answer the questions before they are asked:

1. The patch will be an installer and it will validate the selected folder in much the same way as the patch 1.02 installer did. The patch may have a slightly more relaxed verification routine this time, but I am still weighing this approach against the increased "since installing 1.03 my game crashes so GWX is buggy" posts it would bring. Hopefully everyone has learnt with 1.02 that subsequent crashes (especially when loading) are caused by not installing over a clean copy of GWX and perhaps more experienced members can help out the GWX devs and testers when these inevitable posts are made (indeed, the GWX webpage now provides the details on the installer messages and what they mean - for easier repeat linking.

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2. The patch will not be released in JSGME/7z format. It is a very bad idea

3. The patch will include the contents of all previous patches and hotfixes. In other words, it can be installed over any previous version of GWX and replaces all previous hotfixes and patches.

4. The patch will be around 80mb.

5. The patch is a fix patch only - it will not contain new units or graphics. That is the focus of the *next* GWX update.

I do not want to download 80 mb for the 5 megabyte of fix.
I am already download path 1.02 .
Make two variants of patch 1.00 - 1.03 complete 80 mb and small partial 1.02-1.03 please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

P_Funk · 03-21-07, 11:04 AM

Somebody put too much brown sugar on their Cheerios this morning.

But his point is kinda valid... once your ears stop ringing.

danlisa · 03-21-07, 11:16 AM

Ah, Copy & Paste......

- cumulative patches are standard - think SH3 v1.4b patch.
- the GWX team is not scoped to support multiple versions of official files and the confusion such creates (ie "which patch do I need?" and so on).
- multiple sets of files confuses players
- the 1.03 files by themselves would still be over 40mb in size.
- the files in 1.03 are mainly updates to files in 1.02. So whilst 1.02 may be 76mb, 1.03 will only be around 80mb.
- players who have yet to d/l 1.02 will benefit from only needing to d/l 1 x 80mb file instead of 1 x 76mb file and 1 x 40mb file.

And for the "Why no JSGME version?" complaints:
- further files are deleted thus taking the patch out of the capability of JSGME.
- teaching someone how to unzip 7z ("What's a 7z?") and get into JSGME ("What's a JSGME?") and then into SH3 is harder than supporting the installer approach!
- GWX is meant to integrate with SH3. A GWX patch is an update to this integration. Thus it is not merely a mod to be applied over the top.

Penelope_Grey · 03-21-07, 11:23 AM

so lemme get this straight, lets say I didn't get the first update to GWX; the 1.02, Im still on the original, if I download 1.03 I still get the content of 1.02 AND the fixes?

Jimbuna · 03-21-07, 11:28 AM

Well my ears have stopped ringing but I'm afraid this is the way it's been bundled up for delivery

A lot of time, thought ,discussion and testing has gone into the next release and without wishing to appear harsh....each individual has the option wether they feel it's worth their while downloading or not

danlisa · 03-21-07, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

so lemme get this straight, lets say I didn't get the first update to GWX; the 1.02, Im still on the original, if I download 1.03 I still get the content of 1.02 AND the fixes?

Yes.

bigboywooly · 03-21-07, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MDE

2. The patch will not be released in JSGME/7z format. It is a very bad idea

No it isnt
If you saw half the posts for the Dec udate you will understand why
"Whats a 7 zip"
"I dont have JSGME"
"I cant open my monkey"

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Originally Posted by MDE

I do not want to download 80 mb for the 5 megabyte of fix.
I am already download path 1.02 .
Make two variants of patch 1.00 - 1.03 complete 80 mb and small partial 1.02-1.03 please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

The idea of the installer is that its universal
One patch fits all
Hard enough fixing some of the so called problems without having multiple releases of the same patch

And if the fix was only 5mb it wouldnt be released as an installer
Probably wouldnt be released at all till somewhat bigger and more worthwhile

danlisa · 03-21-07, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

No it isnt
If you saw half the posts for the Dec udate you will understand why
"Whats a 7 zip"
"I dont have JSGME"
"I cant open my monkey"

MONKEY!!!!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Oh, BTW, my fridge magnets no longer work.

03-21-07, 07:56 AM	#890
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I'm sure this has been asked before, but any righteous youtube or other videos out there showing GWX in action? __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

03-21-07, 09:59 AM	#892
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I'll have to grab it when I get home. Don't have that decompressor at the office. Pysched to start GWX!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

03-21-07, 11:04 AM	#894
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Somebody put too much brown sugar on their Cheerios this morning. But his point is kinda valid... once your ears stop ringing. __________________

03-21-07, 11:16 AM	#895
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Ah, Copy & Paste...... - cumulative patches are standard - think SH3 v1.4b patch. - the GWX team is not scoped to support multiple versions of official files and the confusion such creates (ie "which patch do I need?" and so on). - multiple sets of files confuses players - the 1.03 files by themselves would still be over 40mb in size. - the files in 1.03 are mainly updates to files in 1.02. So whilst 1.02 may be 76mb, 1.03 will only be around 80mb. - players who have yet to d/l 1.02 will benefit from only needing to d/l 1 x 80mb file instead of 1 x 76mb file and 1 x 40mb file. And for the "Why no JSGME version?" complaints: - further files are deleted thus taking the patch out of the capability of JSGME. - teaching someone how to unzip 7z ("What's a 7z?") and get into JSGME ("What's a JSGME?") and then into SH3 is harder than supporting the installer approach! - GWX is meant to integrate with SH3. A GWX patch is an update to this integration. Thus it is not merely a mod to be applied over the top. __________________

03-21-07, 11:23 AM	#896
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	so lemme get this straight, lets say I didn't get the first update to GWX; the 1.02, Im still on the original, if I download 1.03 I still get the content of 1.02 AND the fixes? __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-21-07, 06:05 AM	#887
KrvKpt. Falke Planesman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Iron Coffin Posts: 195 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	All names on that map should be in German because its a German map! It doesnt mean that Warsaw or Gdynia were German but... you know i think that Germans are saying Warschau - not Warszawa, the same with Polish: they say: Kilonia - not Kiel...

03-21-07, 10:35 AM	#893
MDE Bilge Rat Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Testing is underway now and I hope to release the patch within a week or so. And to answer the questions before they are asked: 1. The patch will be an installer and it will validate the selected folder in much the same way as the patch 1.02 installer did. The patch may have a slightly more relaxed verification routine this time, but I am still weighing this approach against the increased "since installing 1.03 my game crashes so GWX is buggy" posts it would bring. Hopefully everyone has learnt with 1.02 that subsequent crashes (especially when loading) are caused by not installing over a clean copy of GWX and perhaps more experienced members can help out the GWX devs and testers when these inevitable posts are made (indeed, the GWX webpage now provides the details on the installer messages and what they mean - for easier repeat linking. ). 2. The patch will not be released in JSGME/7z format. It is a very bad idea 3. The patch will include the contents of all previous patches and hotfixes. In other words, it can be installed over any previous version of GWX and replaces all previous hotfixes and patches. 4. The patch will be around 80mb. 5. The patch is a fix patch only - it will not contain new units or graphics. That is the focus of the next GWX update. I do not want to download 80 mb for the 5 megabyte of fix. I am already download path 1.02 . Make two variants of patch 1.00 - 1.03 complete 80 mb and small partial 1.02-1.03 please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

03-21-07, 11:28 AM	#897
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well my ears have stopped ringing but I'm afraid this is the way it's been bundled up for delivery A lot of time, thought ,discussion and testing has gone into the next release and without wishing to appear harsh....each individual has the option wether they feel it's worth their while downloading or not __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)