Ignore a specific fourm?

Ducimus · 11-10-06, 09:50 PM

In a smiliar manner to be able to ingore a specific user, Is it possible, or would it ever be possible to squelch out an entire forum thereby not seeing it, and subsquently not be tempted to respond to anything therein?

Sometimes you'll see topics in a certain Forum that you really don't want to get involved in, but like the person told to "don't look down" you do it anyway. If "temptation makes the theif" id like to remove the temptation from my sight.

Gizzmoe · 11-11-06, 12:37 AM

No, it´s not possible and very likely will never be possible. The best way to ignore a certain forum is simply not to visit it!

Ducimus · 02-13-07, 02:15 AM

Im bumpng this damn post, cause i'd still like the ablity to be able to not see the god damn general forum.

The general forum is full of religous and poltiical bull**** and a buttload of overactive people with their own little agenda's., That damn forum i's alot like a tragic car accident. You don't mean to slow down to look but you do it anyway. Everytime i visit that god damn forum, im angry for like 5 hours afterwords.

Throw me in the brig and suspend me for all i care at this point. That forums existance in it's current form sour's the whole damn place if you ask me. At the least, put all the poltiical bull**** in a subforum off the general forum so it's not out in the open where you'd be tempted to look at it.

CCIP · 02-13-07, 02:45 AM

Come on man, you can be above that. I, too, am irritated by it (maybe as much as you are), but I think it's best not to go too far in your dislikes...

I hate to say it, also, but I hope Neal gives you a word of caution on your behaviour or something. I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're just way too confrontational on too many occasions. You've picked fights with some members where I think it was entirely avoidable if you just kept above it instead of getting aggressive.

GSpector · 02-13-07, 03:11 AM

Hello Ducimus,

I 2nd that motion of your.

I have to try to avoid the General Forum as well.

The problem i have is that when I click on NEW POSTs, it throws them all together and sometimes I just click on the thread because it looks interesting and then I realive what I'm ready and I too get sucked it and then upset for a while.

I now try to make an effort to see who created the thread and if it's by certain people, I just pass it up no mater how interesting it is.

Since it can't be filtered, How about sorting them into the Groups. I have no problem with scrolling past a page of just General posts to get to something I want to read like SH3 & SHIV.:hmm:

Any chance of this happening?

danlisa · 02-13-07, 03:13 AM

With a bit of self-restraint you can ignore a forum.

You must have noticed the 'arrow' button on the far right of the forum title, if you click this it will 'collaspe' the forum & sub forums so you don't see the new topics.

I do this with the DW, International & Special Projects forums purely because I have no need to post or know what's going on in there.

Ducimus · 02-13-07, 03:31 AM

Right now im only of a few thoughts:

1.) That general forum to me taints the entire site. After looking at that forum, i just start automatically reading into everything presented on this site. The poltics seem to bleed over into other area's though little cracks here or there and its hard to not focus on them. "Jap" thread for example. Additiona thoguht here. After tonight, i honestly have little desire to visit this site anymore. The whole poltiical drama that eventually occurs here just puts me off to subsim, and SH3. Just playing SH3 reminds me of subsim.

2.) One thing i havent been able to understand is how come the general forum is allowed to run rampant the way it does. In most places ive seen, poltiics and religion is either not allowed or put off into its own little corner where people didnt have to have to look at it. I try my best to avoid it, hoping to find something else in there to read, but invariably things get political there. One thing that ive noticed is this whole "I will not submit" thing all over the place. While i havent cared to look into that, it reminds me alot of NOTW bumper stickers, only its of an anti islamic tilt. Im not overly enthused about world events either, but the whole I will not submit, strikes me as an open display of religious hatred - and this is displayed everywhere in every forum where various members post. Its ilke no matter where you go on subsim, theres a little piece of the general forum there.

3.) If you can't moderate/isoloate politics and relgion, then at least rename the damn general forum so people have an idea of what its REALLY about. I seriously suggest renaming it to "Opinion, Politic's and Religion". A little truth in advertising and the name is indigative of what one can expect there. The name of "general forum" is highly misleading.

4.) It's really hard to not take the **** that gets tossed in that forum personally. When people start tossing up there crap in my face, its really hard to not get very aggressive. Some people there have an amazing ablity fling their opinions in the most offensive, yet subtle manner possible. Subtely is what some people there are really good at. I for one, and not into subtley, i don't buy into subtely, and im not fooled by it either. I say what i mean, rather then tapdance around it in a fake facade of subtely.

Konovalov · 02-13-07, 07:13 AM

I don't disagree with anything that Ducimus has said. For the last couple of years the General Topics forum has been dominated and overwhelmed by just a few topics which are repeated over and over again to the point of ad nauseam. Even in threads completely unrelated somehow certain members manage to get into it something about hating Bush, hating Democrats and liberals, hating Islam, hating Muslims, or ranting against America. I think that the General Topics forum should be either renamed or split up. Rename it to "Mini-me Jihadwatch/Islam is evil/Bush stinks/America sucks/Democrats are weak pansies". Or even better just make a seperate sub-forum for all this overly repetitive ranting/discussion.

At least Ducimus has the balls (excuse my language) to speak up which he is fully entitled to do. If Ducimus is confrontational then I would love to know what some other members are. For me Ducimus has hit the nail on the head end of bloody story. Subsim is a great site as are the forums but the General Topics forum has changed in a major way. No way near as many people from the other forums on Subsim visit the general Topics anymore. The cross polination that once used to occur between forums no longer does and the General Topics is occupied by a small number of people talking always about the same stuff. More people from the other forums need to be encouraged to enter the Gneral Topics but as it stands now I am not surprised that they don't.

Ducimus is spot on the mark.

Onkel Neal · 02-13-07, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Come on man, you can be above that. I, too, am irritated by it (maybe as much as you are), but I think it's best not to go too far in your dislikes...

I hate to say it, also, but I hope Neal gives you a word of caution on your behaviour or something. I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're just way too confrontational on too many occasions. You've picked fights with some members where I think it was entirely avoidable if you just kept above it instead of getting aggressive.

I agree. Ducimus, you complain because people in the GT forum do not show restraint and here you are peppering a topic with cursing. You want me to control you so you do not see the GT forum because you cannot show self-control and not go in there. What's next? Do you want me to modify your browser so you do not see offending websites when you Google? I suppose I could make a usergroup, configure it so it does not see the GT forum, add a bunch of people to the group, set the permissions, and then add and remove people when they decide they want to see GT or not, when they change their minds, etc. It would be one more thing I can spend my evenings doing, in addition to all the other things that take up my spare time. How much time do you think I have to mess with this foolishness, when all you have to do is not click on it?

Konovalov, and others who are put off with the GT forum, I am receptive to what you are saying (as long as you're not throwing g-d curse words around like crazy

) and there are times when I find some topics stupid and juvenile. I have tried to balance the forum with allowing different points of view but not letting any one POV dominate the forum. We will have an occasional anti-Muslim rant, or anti-US rant, but if it becomes epidemic, we apply the brakes. We will also hear people support Muslims or the US, in the middle of those rants, and often they make good points that could, possibly help people understand better.

We get 10~20 new forum members every day, we all know some percentage of them are going to be uneducated, ignorant, even morons. How can it be avoided? My stance has been that for the sake of freedom of speech, we, the senior members, should be calm and cool, explain to them that we run a relatively civil forum, and help them fit in. If, over time, they cannot restrain themselves, they cannot fit in, the constantly provoke a lot of other members, they are dismissed. But I feel it it is my duty to keep that at a minimum, not take the easy way and hammer people right and left. Because even though I am the admin of this forum, I am not anyone's boss or parent.

I would like to know how we can censor and control the discussions in the GT forum so everybody will be happy? Someone tell me how to do that. In the meantime, I'll be at the cleaners getting my brownshirt uniform.

Konovalov · 02-13-07, 11:04 AM

I understand and accept what you are saying Neal. Obviously at times I get frustrated and perhaps my ideals get ahead of the reality here. It is a very tough balancing act and I appreciate the work that the moderators and you do on this site. Perhaps in a year or two it will revert back to an earlier time. Who knows. In any case I thank you for taking the time to explain your position and I accept that.

Gizzmoe · 02-13-07, 12:04 PM

The least invasive way to make GT a more inviting place for everyone would be to create subforums. A "Politics and Religion" subforum would be a good start.

Konovalov · 02-13-07, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

The least invasive way to make GT a more inviting place for everyone would be to create subforums. A "Politics and Religion" subforum would be a good start.

Yes, that would be the best form of action to take. I worded it as split up but subforum more accurately describes what I feel is the better approach.

Ducimus · 02-13-07, 01:05 PM

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Do you want me to modify your browser so you do not see offending websites when you Google?

That line to me is rather funny, given what i do for a living and where i work.

I work at an internet filtering, monitoring, and security corporation. (im sure you have my IP's logged on your server where i post from, you can verify that if you wanted to, just keep that data private if you do,)

Regarding the internet, you name it, ive seen it, in just about any topic you can think of. I know more about hate on the internet then most people here would ever know about or want to know about. Want to have a headache? Go google "World church of the creator, " or "The 14 words". Thats just the crap thats on the surface. You can go much deeper down the rathole if you keep digging. (side note: This is why i laugh at people getting upset over the word "jap"... ppuullleeeasse, as if this is anywhere near real hatred out there).

Most idiot's on the net, you read their surmonizing garbage, and get a headache, end of story. But here, how now you got this pack that you end up interacting with, all of which looking for little strings to pull to get a rise out of you. Thats the general forum here.

Another side note. Politics and Religion, (IE, the general forum) have something in common. That each one, what it's really about, is what a person beleives. You beleive so-n-so is good and so-n-so is bad, or in one diety and not the other. But they are all about beleif. Ever hear anyone say, something like , "the quickest way to make an enemy out of somebody is to try and change what they beleive in?" People hang on to there beleifs tenaciously, they will usually defend them zealously (i know i do), and they are not easily changed. Ultimatly, discussion about them, is a moot point.

Here's how this works:

Person 1: "Bark."
Person 2: "Roof."

Person 1: "Bark!"
Person 2: "Roof!"

Person 1: "Bark!" "Bark!"
Person 2: "Roof!" "Roof!"

Person 1: "Bark!" "Bark!" "Bark!"
Person 2: "Roof!" "Roof!" "Roof!"

Person 1: "Bark!" "Bark!" "Bark!" "Bark!" "Bark!" "Bark!"
Person 2: "Roof!" "Roof!" "Roof!" "Roof!" "Roof!" "Roof!"

Person 1: "Bark!!!!!!"
Person 2: "Roof!!!!"

That exactly how it works, and it accomplishes nothing except the little explantion points at the end. Yet Some people acutally like that crap, maybe it gives them a sense of importanice i dunno, but again, since your probably bound by limiations of the forum software, either give them their own subforum or rename the general forum to reflect its real content so average joe's can get it out of their head that it is not a place for normal dicussion. Please?

Oh, and can i take that "I will not submit" banner, put a big red X on it, and say, "Just say no to bigoted relgious hatred"? and use it in my sig? I wonder how well that would go over here. :rotfl:

EDIT:
Thanks, Konovalov for confirming those observations, ive noticed the exact same thing for the longest time. At least now i know havent totally gone off the deepend

STEED · 02-13-07, 01:22 PM

As a member of many forums on other sites some of them make SubSim GT forum look very civilised and I'm not repeating some things I have seen else where, at the other end some of them censor so much it's makes you wonder is it worth posting.

The GT forum can get hot and some times I have been ticked off by some of the remarks but as the old saying goes if you can not take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

At the moment I am enjoying the Ashes thread which I started now open up to the world of cricket and having a good time and the odd laugh, the best thing if you do not like the look of a topic just do not read any further and do not post.

I feel Neal and the Moderator's have done a good job in keeping the balance in the GT forum, time to time some topics do get out of hand and they burn themselves out or a moderator will step in to close the thread.

Gizzmoe · 02-13-07, 01:29 PM

Ducimus, you want some Valium?

Like already has been said, you don´t need to take part in such discussions, no-one forces you to read them, so what are you complaining about? If you were a moderator of GT you would probably die from an heart attack within days, we guys actually have to read all that stuff there and, even worse, we cannot vent our frustration about certain threads in public!

11-10-06, 09:50 PM	#1
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ignore a specific fourm? In a smiliar manner to be able to ingore a specific user, Is it possible, or would it ever be possible to squelch out an entire forum thereby not seeing it, and subsquently not be tempted to respond to anything therein? Sometimes you'll see topics in a certain Forum that you really don't want to get involved in, but like the person told to "don't look down" you do it anyway. If "temptation makes the theif" id like to remove the temptation from my sight.

02-13-07, 02:45 AM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Come on man, you can be above that. I, too, am irritated by it (maybe as much as you are), but I think it's best not to go too far in your dislikes... I hate to say it, also, but I hope Neal gives you a word of caution on your behaviour or something. I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're just way too confrontational on too many occasions. You've picked fights with some members where I think it was entirely avoidable if you just kept above it instead of getting aggressive. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-13-07, 03:11 AM	#5
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Hello Ducimus, I 2nd that motion of your. I have to try to avoid the General Forum as well. The problem i have is that when I click on NEW POSTs, it throws them all together and sometimes I just click on the thread because it looks interesting and then I realive what I'm ready and I too get sucked it and then upset for a while. I now try to make an effort to see who created the thread and if it's by certain people, I just pass it up no mater how interesting it is. Since it can't be filtered, How about sorting them into the Groups. I have no problem with scrolling past a page of just General posts to get to something I want to read like SH3 & SHIV.:hmm: Any chance of this happening? __________________ Specter

02-13-07, 03:13 AM	#6
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	With a bit of self-restraint you can ignore a forum. You must have noticed the 'arrow' button on the far right of the forum title, if you click this it will 'collaspe' the forum & sub forums so you don't see the new topics. I do this with the DW, International & Special Projects forums purely because I have no need to post or know what's going on in there. __________________

02-13-07, 07:13 AM	#8
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I don't disagree with anything that Ducimus has said. For the last couple of years the General Topics forum has been dominated and overwhelmed by just a few topics which are repeated over and over again to the point of ad nauseam. Even in threads completely unrelated somehow certain members manage to get into it something about hating Bush, hating Democrats and liberals, hating Islam, hating Muslims, or ranting against America. I think that the General Topics forum should be either renamed or split up. Rename it to "Mini-me Jihadwatch/Islam is evil/Bush stinks/America sucks/Democrats are weak pansies". Or even better just make a seperate sub-forum for all this overly repetitive ranting/discussion. At least Ducimus has the balls (excuse my language) to speak up which he is fully entitled to do. If Ducimus is confrontational then I would love to know what some other members are. For me Ducimus has hit the nail on the head end of bloody story. Subsim is a great site as are the forums but the General Topics forum has changed in a major way. No way near as many people from the other forums on Subsim visit the general Topics anymore. The cross polination that once used to occur between forums no longer does and the General Topics is occupied by a small number of people talking always about the same stuff. More people from the other forums need to be encouraged to enter the Gneral Topics but as it stands now I am not surprised that they don't. Ducimus is spot on the mark. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

11-11-06, 12:37 AM	#2
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No, it´s not possible and very likely will never be possible. The best way to ignore a certain forum is simply not to visit it!

02-13-07, 02:15 AM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im bumpng this damn post, cause i'd still like the ablity to be able to not see the god damn general forum. The general forum is full of religous and poltiical bull** and a buttload of overactive people with their own little agenda's., That damn forum i's alot like a tragic car accident. You don't mean to slow down to look but you do it anyway. Everytime i visit that god damn forum, im angry for like 5 hours afterwords. Throw me in the brig and suspend me for all i care at this point. That forums existance in it's current form sour's the whole damn place if you ask me. At the least, put all the poltiical bull** in a subforum off the general forum so it's not out in the open where you'd be tempted to look at it.

02-13-07, 03:31 AM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Right now im only of a few thoughts: 1.) That general forum to me taints the entire site. After looking at that forum, i just start automatically reading into everything presented on this site. The poltics seem to bleed over into other area's though little cracks here or there and its hard to not focus on them. "Jap" thread for example. Additiona thoguht here. After tonight, i honestly have little desire to visit this site anymore. The whole poltiical drama that eventually occurs here just puts me off to subsim, and SH3. Just playing SH3 reminds me of subsim. 2.) One thing i havent been able to understand is how come the general forum is allowed to run rampant the way it does. In most places ive seen, poltiics and religion is either not allowed or put off into its own little corner where people didnt have to have to look at it. I try my best to avoid it, hoping to find something else in there to read, but invariably things get political there. One thing that ive noticed is this whole "I will not submit" thing all over the place. While i havent cared to look into that, it reminds me alot of NOTW bumper stickers, only its of an anti islamic tilt. Im not overly enthused about world events either, but the whole I will not submit, strikes me as an open display of religious hatred - and this is displayed everywhere in every forum where various members post. Its ilke no matter where you go on subsim, theres a little piece of the general forum there. 3.) If you can't moderate/isoloate politics and relgion, then at least rename the damn general forum so people have an idea of what its REALLY about. I seriously suggest renaming it to "Opinion, Politic's and Religion". A little truth in advertising and the name is indigative of what one can expect there. The name of "general forum" is highly misleading. 4.) It's really hard to not take the **** that gets tossed in that forum personally. When people start tossing up there crap in my face, its really hard to not get very aggressive. Some people there have an amazing ablity fling their opinions in the most offensive, yet subtle manner possible. Subtely is what some people there are really good at. I for one, and not into subtley, i don't buy into subtely, and im not fooled by it either. I say what i mean, rather then tapdance around it in a fake facade of subtely.

02-13-07, 11:04 AM	#10
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I understand and accept what you are saying Neal. Obviously at times I get frustrated and perhaps my ideals get ahead of the reality here. It is a very tough balancing act and I appreciate the work that the moderators and you do on this site. Perhaps in a year or two it will revert back to an earlier time. Who knows. In any case I thank you for taking the time to explain your position and I accept that. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

02-13-07, 12:04 PM	#11
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The least invasive way to make GT a more inviting place for everyone would be to create subforums. A "Politics and Religion" subforum would be a good start.

02-13-07, 01:22 PM	#14
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	As a member of many forums on other sites some of them make SubSim GT forum look very civilised and I'm not repeating some things I have seen else where, at the other end some of them censor so much it's makes you wonder is it worth posting. The GT forum can get hot and some times I have been ticked off by some of the remarks but as the old saying goes if you can not take the heat stay out of the kitchen. At the moment I am enjoying the Ashes thread which I started now open up to the world of cricket and having a good time and the odd laugh, the best thing if you do not like the look of a topic just do not read any further and do not post. I feel Neal and the Moderator's have done a good job in keeping the balance in the GT forum, time to time some topics do get out of hand and they burn themselves out or a moderator will step in to close the thread. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-13-07, 01:29 PM	#15
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ducimus, you want some Valium? Like already has been said, you don´t need to take part in such discussions, no-one forces you to read them, so what are you complaining about? If you were a moderator of GT you would probably die from an heart attack within days, we guys actually have to read all that stuff there and, even worse, we cannot vent our frustration about certain threads in public!