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Old 11-14-18, 06:15 AM   #8536
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I am sick and tired of Boris Mog and all the rest bleating like sheep and not getting off their fat arses doing something about it.

Typical politicians strutting around like peacocks on the media stage.
Oh but they will....like voting against the deal in the HoC.
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Old 11-14-18, 06:16 AM   #8537
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So no one knows how or what the deal is, but the deal is bad, because .. what? Because Johnson says it? I am trying very hard not to get more cynical, or sarcastic.
It does not matter whether soft or hard brexit, that England and the whole UK will be bader off trade-wise than before is not exactly rocket science.
Agreed but so will the EU.

A no deal is not good for anyone.
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Old 11-14-18, 06:55 AM   #8538
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Brussels will “retain all the controls” over swathes of British regulation under the Brexit deal struck by Theresa May, EU negotiators have told member states.

A leaked diplomatic note from a meeting between Commission officials and ambassadors from the EU’s 27 countries reveals how Brussels views the “level playing field” rules signed up to by the prime minister.

“We should be in the best negotiation position for the future relationship. This requires the customs union as the basis of the future relationship,” deputy chief negotiator Sabine Weyand said, according to the note seen by The Times newspaper.

“They must align their rules but the EU will retain all the controls. They apply the same rules. UK wants a lot more from future relationship, so EU retains its leverage.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout
Most worrying if true and hopefully the death knell for May.
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Old 11-14-18, 07:05 AM   #8539
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WELCOME TO STEED'S CRYSTAL BALL PREDICTIONS FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

PM May will not stand down or be pushed to go.

Not one cabinet minister will step down

PM May will get it though the HoC.

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A high chance of being wrong on all three.
Looking good on my first point and no ministers depart by 7:50pm then that will be two out of three. We will have to wait for my third one.
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Old 11-14-18, 07:08 AM   #8540
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I see no angry faces on the Tory front bench but I do see them on Labour's front bench.
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Old 11-14-18, 07:15 AM   #8541
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Wait for the Cabinet meeting this afternoon and let us see if and how many resignations there are.

Most importantly, if she loses another Brexit Secretary (Raab) that will probably make her position untenable.
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HEY A TORY GAVE MAYSTAY A VERBAL PUNCH IN PMQ'S!
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Wait for the Cabinet meeting this afternoon and let us see if and how many resignations there are.

Most importantly, if she loses another Brexit Secretary (Raab) that will probably make her position untenable.
It has to be big beast(s) not the shrimps.
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Old 11-14-18, 07:26 AM   #8545
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I see no angry faces on the Tory front bench but I do see them on Labour's front bench.
Says the man who claims not to have a tv
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Says the man who claims not to have a tv
SkyNews on the Internet you sexy old sod.
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SkyNews on the Internet you sexy old sod.
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Just five or so minutes away from the Cabinet meeting at 1400 GMT and I'll predict at least two resignations but couldn't say who.
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BANG

Here we go..
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^?
Northern Ireland: Remain in EU 55,8 percent; leave 44,2 percent.

https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...es-vote-brexit

"England will not agree to any deal which results in Northern Ireland being treated differently from the rest of the United Kingdom."

I wonder how Mr Johnson would solve this. My take is he cannot, and he does not want to. Insult and smear and criticize, and run away when responsibility calls. Leave the mess you yourself created to others, and then criticize them again when they try to make the best of it.
Even if they called your bluff, and lies. God-awful.

They cannot have both, staying with the UK and staying with the EU.
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