{REQ} Daihatsu Landing Craft...anyone make it? - Page 3

keltos01 · 08-16-10, 07:47 AM

Miner1436 and I also made a Type 92 7.7 mm machine gun.

regards

keltos

tater · 08-16-10, 08:28 AM

Cool, that would be awesome. Dunno how we'll set the damage level...

I'll try and get a rescaled version image up here soon for ya.

tater · 08-16-10, 12:37 PM

vs the oversized version:

keltos01 · 08-16-10, 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=tater;1469272]

nice but does the driver see anything ?

maybe just change the wheelhouse ?

keltos

tater · 08-16-10, 01:14 PM

Not sure how many had the splinter protection for the pilot.

I suppose I could try and fix it. Maybe lower the poop a little, lol.

Course the people are over 1.8 m tall, dunno what the average japanese height was back then

tater · 08-16-10, 05:59 PM

Actually, I have pictures with guys standing at the wheel where their heads are OVER the splinter shield. Perhaps that was for normal use, and under fire they'd DUCK, and peer out the window slit. Note that most images show many smaller square holes (6-8 inches square). Another image has + shaped slits all over, and at different heights.

keltos01 · 08-17-10, 02:49 AM

Here are the barges drawing scaled to their respective sizes.

Note the shadow of the wheelhouse on the second barge (Type A : Army) : the viewing port has vertical slits.

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/walkabo...l/tunnels.html

see also :

http://picasaweb.google.com/muaphotos/Saipan#

http://paperkraft.blogspot.com/2009/...raft-lcvp.html

blueprint origami :

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...a03130c66g.jpg

Battlestations Midway

Class LCP (Personnel Landing Craft)
AA Weapons: 7.7mm machine gun x2
Speed 25 knots

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Battles...mpire_of_Japan

regards,

Keltos

tater · 08-17-10, 08:35 AM

ONI is not accurate in many cases, and sometimes disagrees between versions, least not the drawings. That BSM version looks too big to me. They had a couple 14m versions (14.58m), a 15m type, and a 17m type. The latter was very rare.

ONI below claims the army type is 15m, and the super A is 21m. There was no 21 m type at all.

ONI 41-41I has better images, actually.

The gun shield also needs to be smaller, and curved. The /—\ shape is only a few inches high on the real thing, and the shield is a ) shape.

keltos01 · 08-17-10, 08:38 AM

did you look at the pictures of the real barges i found ?

tater · 08-17-10, 08:46 AM

Nice, didn't see those the first time I saw your post.

That is what my 41-42 I ONI manual shows, much closer to that than what it shows in 208J Supp.

If my 3d skills were not as abysmal as they are... actually though, deleting the planar shield and replacing with a cylinder is actually easy. I might give it a go!

Thos images show how terrible the Battlestations Midway version is.

(the more I look at SH4 ship models, the more terrible I realize most are).

( a lot of work for a craft that shouldn't get seen all that much, LOL. Still... What I need is a low-poly version of your 7.7MG, then I can steal a gun shield from another gun we already have and scale it down). I only want a lower poly version cause with so many about, I worry about FR—and I think your excellent gun has as many triangles as the rest of the barge combined—perhaps many more.

keltos01 · 08-17-10, 09:30 AM

[QUOTE=tater;1470022]Nice, didn't see those the first time I saw your post.

That is what my 41-42 I ONI manual shows, much closer to that than what it shows in 208J Supp.

If my 3d skills were not as abysmal as they are... actually though, deleting the planar shield and replacing with a cylinder is actually easy. I might give it a go!don't forget to clone the face you made, move it back by an inch or so and stich the sides together so as to have a full shield

Thos images show how terrible the Battlestations Midway version is.
the people on board look better than SH4 IJN sailors though..

(the more I look at SH4 ship models, the more terrible I realize most are).
agreed..

( a lot of work for a craft that shouldn't get seen all that much, LOL. Still... What I need is a low-poly version of your 7.7MG,
do you have 3ds ?

then I can steal a gun shield from another gun we already have and scale it down). I only want a lower poly version cause with so many about, I worry about FR—and I think your excellent gun has as many triangles as the rest of the barge combined—perhaps many more.

keltos

tater · 08-17-10, 11:32 AM

No, I'm using wings 3d right now. I need to get the hang of something free before I decide if I have the chops for a real program.

keltos01 · 02-21-17, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Von Gerlach

these would be very nice esp for the Japanese Campaign. Maybe you could just create a single item of massed troops as a placeholder....for appearances. They would not have to be animated to make visusal sense.

I wish..

08-16-10, 07:47 AM	#31
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Miner1436 and I also made a Type 92 7.7 mm machine gun. regards keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-16-10, 01:11 PM	#34
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	[QUOTE=tater;1469272] nice but does the driver see anything ? maybe just change the wheelhouse ? keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-17-10, 02:49 AM	#37
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	scaled blueprints Here are the barges drawing scaled to their respective sizes. Note the shadow of the wheelhouse on the second barge (Type A : Army) : the viewing port has vertical slits. Uploaded with ImageShack.us http://www.pacificwrecks.com/walkabo...l/tunnels.html see also : http://picasaweb.google.com/muaphotos/Saipan# http://paperkraft.blogspot.com/2009/...raft-lcvp.html blueprint origami : http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...a03130c66g.jpg Battlestations Midway Class LCP (Personnel Landing Craft) AA Weapons: 7.7mm machine gun x2 Speed 25 knots http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Battles...mpire_of_Japan regards, Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-17-10 at 04:12 AM.

08-17-10, 08:38 AM	#39
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	did you look at the pictures of the real barges i found ? __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-17-10, 09:30 AM	#41
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	[QUOTE=tater;1470022]Nice, didn't see those the first time I saw your post. That is what my 41-42 I ONI manual shows, much closer to that than what it shows in 208J Supp. If my 3d skills were not as abysmal as they are... actually though, deleting the planar shield and replacing with a cylinder is actually easy. I might give it a go!don't forget to clone the face you made, move it back by an inch or so and stich the sides together so as to have a full shield Thos images show how terrible the Battlestations Midway version is. the people on board look better than SH4 IJN sailors though.. (the more I look at SH4 ship models, the more terrible I realize most are). agreed.. ( a lot of work for a craft that shouldn't get seen all that much, LOL. Still... What I need is a low-poly version of your 7.7MG, do you have 3ds ? then I can steal a gun shield from another gun we already have and scale it down). I only want a lower poly version cause with so many about, I worry about FR—and I think your excellent gun has as many triangles as the rest of the barge combined—perhaps many more. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-16-10, 08:28 AM	#32
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Cool, that would be awesome. Dunno how we'll set the damage level... I'll try and get a rescaled version image up here soon for ya.

08-16-10, 12:37 PM	#33
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	vs the oversized version:

08-16-10, 01:14 PM	#35
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Not sure how many had the splinter protection for the pilot. I suppose I could try and fix it. Maybe lower the poop a little, lol. Course the people are over 1.8 m tall, dunno what the average japanese height was back then

08-16-10, 05:59 PM	#36
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Actually, I have pictures with guys standing at the wheel where their heads are OVER the splinter shield. Perhaps that was for normal use, and under fire they'd DUCK, and peer out the window slit. Note that most images show many smaller square holes (6-8 inches square). Another image has + shaped slits all over, and at different heights.

08-17-10, 08:35 AM	#38
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	ONI is not accurate in many cases, and sometimes disagrees between versions, least not the drawings. That BSM version looks too big to me. They had a couple 14m versions (14.58m), a 15m type, and a 17m type. The latter was very rare. ONI below claims the army type is 15m, and the super A is 21m. There was no 21 m type at all. ONI 41-41I has better images, actually. The gun shield also needs to be smaller, and curved. The /—\ shape is only a few inches high on the real thing, and the shield is a ) shape.

08-17-10, 08:46 AM	#40
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Nice, didn't see those the first time I saw your post. That is what my 41-42 I ONI manual shows, much closer to that than what it shows in 208J Supp. If my 3d skills were not as abysmal as they are... actually though, deleting the planar shield and replacing with a cylinder is actually easy. I might give it a go! Thos images show how terrible the Battlestations Midway version is. (the more I look at SH4 ship models, the more terrible I realize most are). ( a lot of work for a craft that shouldn't get seen all that much, LOL. Still... What I need is a low-poly version of your 7.7MG, then I can steal a gun shield from another gun we already have and scale it down). I only want a lower poly version cause with so many about, I worry about FR—and I think your excellent gun has as many triangles as the rest of the barge combined—perhaps many more.

08-17-10, 11:32 AM	#42
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	No, I'm using wings 3d right now. I need to get the hang of something free before I decide if I have the chops for a real program.