Alexander Litvinenko Part II anybody?

[Aktungbby]

A source familiar with the investigation told the BBC the agent was likely to be rarer than the Sarin gas thought to have been used in Syria and in an attack on the Tokyo subway in 1995.
And it was said not to be VX - the nerve agent used to kill the half brother of the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Malaysia last year.
Earlier, Ms Rudd told the BBC the nerve agent used in the poisoning was "very rare".

WE NEED TO HIRE KIM JUNG UN'S TWO ESCAPED AGENTS FROM THE HALF-BROTHER MALAYSIA EPISODE; PAY THEM EXCEEDINGLY HANDSOMELY, AND SEND THEM TO VISIT VLADIMIR PUTIN...

[Catfish]

A direct decisive punch on P.'s nose, not to be backtraced, but without leaving a doubt from where the 'greetings' come.
Unfortunately i guess the british network in Russia cannot be compared 'to vice versa', though.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

So what would you suggest as an alternative?

Focussing on becomingn stronger ourselves.

But with today's gentle pussycat attitude in the West, that is daydreaming. There is a reason why the tough bullies are on the offensive around the globe, and why the West is being defeated time and again, falls back, talks, cries and does symbolic acts.

Why should the bully stop being a bully if being a bully works for him so well?

Firsts go first. Becoming stronger and more determined ourselves: thats it in a nutshell. Lets leave symbolic things to archeologists. The stronger one will not voluntarily agree to weaken himself to make us strong in relation to him. We need to become strong by ourselves. To lend (and bend ) from I think Tukydides: the strong one does what he wants - the weaker suffers what he must.

Or not Tukydides, I always mix them old dead men up.

[mapuc]

As I wrote before

The strongest response the English government could send to Putin is

Deportation of Russian diplomats and take home the British ambassador.

This would be a stronger message than more economical sanctions which seems to have no effect.

Markus

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

WE NEED TO HIRE KIM JUNG UN'S TWO ESCAPED AGENTS FROM THE HALF-BROTHER MALAYSIA EPISODE; PAY THEM EXCEEDINGLY HANDSOMELY, AND SEND THEM TO VISIT VLADIMIR PUTIN...

too cruel and it wouldn't work anyway ... don't you believe in innocent till proven guilty


Skripal's son died at 43 and his wife at 60 while still in Russia ... England or the USA traded ten spies for him and two others.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...=undefined-rec

Skripal was pardoned by then-President Dmitry Medvedev and put on a plane for Vienna, where in July 2010 he was exchanged, along with three others, for the 10 Russian spies caught in the United States.

The spy swap, one of the biggest since the Cold War, took place on the tarmac of Vienna airport where a Russian and a U.S. jet parked side by side before the agents were exchanged.

One of the Russian spies exchanged for Skripal was Anna Chapman, who was feted as a hero by Moscow on her return.

WHY WAS HE IN SALISBURY?

Since emerging from the John le Carre world of high espionage and betrayal, Skripal lived modestly in Salisbury and kept out of the spotlight until he was found unconscious on Sunday.

His house in Salisbury was bought for 260,000 pounds ($360,000) in 2011. Skripal was listed at living there under his own name. In the years since he found refuge in Britain, Skripal lost both a wife and son.

His son Alexander died on July 18, 2017 aged 43 in St Petersburg, British media reported. The details are unclear.

His wife Liudmila died on Oct. 23, 2012 of cancer at the age of 60, according to British media. Reuters has not confirmed the exact cause of death of either.

I hear a policeman is also under this nerve agent effects as some twenty others also.

[Jimbuna]

The Police Officer is now conscious and in a stable condition but Skripal and his daughter remain in a critical condition.

[Rockstar]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/uk-d...-probe-1821849

Moscow has reacted angrily to the accusations it was involved, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Friday dismissing them as baseless "propaganda".

On Thursday, however, Russian state TV presenter Kirill Kleimyonov had appeared to deliver a veiled warning, saying: "Don't choose England as your future country of residence... whether you are a professional traitor to the motherland or whether you hate your country in your spare time."

[Jimbuna]

[Rockstar]

[Catfish]

^ ouch.

[Jimbuna]

[Catfish]

Nice to see how the western allies adopted the german motto so well
On the other hand, this wisdom is as old as Sparta (at least).

General Mattis said this in a speech in Norway in front of combat units, if i remember right (did not look up inn the internet, so may be right – or wrong)

To make clear that during any mission, you have to have the will to really kill the enemy. Which may not be said aloud, today. Which again is why school bullies like Putin have so much success.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

You nailed it.

This war historian obviously considers the implications quite significant, else he would not spend so much time of his workings on the matter. And I agree with his basic line of thought (and empirical argument):
https://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Se...40_&dpSrc=srch
This one I currently read, in English:
https://www.amazon.com/Equality-Impo...in+van+creveld
This one i have repeatedly recommended by now:
https://www.amazon.com/Pussycats-Res...40_&dpSrc=srch

Grim perspectives for the West.

But always keep smiling, always stay optmistic and well-entertained!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=503


When the wild men have enough of getting ridiculed and demonised and mocked and feminised and seeing the undeserving being preferred to themselves - why would they want to continue doing the tough part of the show, and once they left: who will stand on guard to protect the Western oh so socialised and civilised and feminised societies against the much more determined wild men of our foes and rivals?

I know just one thing for certain. If thirty years ago I would have made other decisions and indeed would have opted for a career in the BW (it was an alternative I seriously considered for some time), I meanwhile would have bailed out in frustration and anger already many years ago. I knew three such men over the years. And they all turned their backs on the BW early, against their lifetime plan, and for the reasons implied here, and often mentioned by me. Seen that way, my choice was correct.

[Jimbuna]

Former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia, Theresa May has told MPs.

The PM said the government concluded it was "highly likely" Russia was responsible for the Salisbury attack.

The Foreign Office summoned Russia's ambassador to provide an explanation.

Mrs May said if there is no "credible response" by the end of Tuesday, the UK would conclude there has been an "unlawful use of force" by Moscow.

The chemical used in the attack, the PM said, has been identified as being part of a group of nerve agents known as Novichok.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43377856

Can't say I'm surprised especially when taking into account Russias track record in the Crimea, Ukraine and Syria to name just a few.

[Catfish]

I have an idea about how to react:
Threaten Russia with a forever debate in parliament.
This is probably what Merkel would do