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08-14-18, 01:50 PM | #5206 |
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100 F-35 seem to not see delivery to Turkey so soon. Well, that is a good move. To hand over such critical knowhow and electronics to such an untrustworthy "partner" who openly eyes an intimate relation with Russia is somethign that I never understood anyway.
They said that Turkey also contributes electronics to the building of the F-35. This must urgently be changed, even if it will cost time and money.
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08-14-18, 02:52 PM | #5207 |
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08-14-18, 04:32 PM | #5208 |
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What was this old saying? Enemies make you stronger. Alliance partners weaken you. Or was that a stratagem I have read somewhere.
Maybe the US would be best off if simply leaving NATO and leave Europeans to caring for their own business all by themselves. I would understand it. After all, most of what concerns NATO today are threats that affect Europe and Europeans and Europeans' freedom and homes. Not America's. For the US its pretty much uninteresting who rules the Black Sea, whether the Balkan is stable or not, and what the balance of power looks like in the Baltic.
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08-14-18, 04:33 PM | #5209 | |
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But, but... Isn't intimate relations with Russia a good thing? Trump seems to think its a really, really good thing... So much so, he drooped trou and bent over for Vlad at that news conference about a month ago... <O>
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08-14-18, 04:41 PM | #5210 |
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Trump could not differ between a performance by the Bolshoi ballet and a dog fight between two pitbulls in a cage. He only knows that you can make money with selling tickets for both.
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08-15-18, 12:11 AM | #5211 |
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Lucky bastards.
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That would be such a waste of good aircraft Jim.lol
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08-15-18, 02:12 PM | #5214 | |
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You see that completely wrong - the US is literally sewn to the EU or rather to their markets. Therefore, Trump advocates Brexit to promote disagreements within the EU. The whole thing has only a heavy catch - if Beijing suddenly decides to reconnect its currency to gold, such states as Russia, Brazil, Pakistan, Mexico, etc., take along. Thus, the dollar as a reserve currency is obsolete and the United States and Brexit GB are out of world trade. Edit: Although @Sky You are absolutely right with the US (including Brexit GB), we should part with them, they are empty and irrelevant. Last edited by Bleiente; 08-15-18 at 02:51 PM. |
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08-15-18, 06:34 PM | #5215 | |
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08-19-18, 04:15 PM | #5216 | |
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The following text is a bot translation. I do not post just a link, becasue for whatever the reaosn is, Google Translator does not process the website as a whole like in earlier examples, so I needed to enter the text for translation and copy it, it was the onyl way it worked. Entering the URL into the translator results in errors.
Its an essay on ten reasons that work against how the American election system was meant to work. The article was published in the German SZ newspaper, which is beside the TAZ the leftiest of the major national newspaper over here. Its rare that I read something in it that I agree with, or like, they are quote antisemtic, anti-Israel, "progressive", anti-US, pIslamophile etc, and so i would not care to post them usually, but here they have hit the marks. That I am no fan of general election systems and voting rights becasue voters are not fit for the task and also have dubious rights at best to claim rights over others, should be known by now, i did not hide it. But my usual arguments are more general, deal with the human deficits. In this essay, more practical, pragmatic complictions get listed. It all is an argument for not expecting a bettering of the polarized situation in the US any time soon, or for a reversing of the fading of political interest and trust in parties in general. Original German link: LINK Quote:
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08-19-18, 08:17 PM | #5217 | |
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Good find Sky ... a lot to read, but good at pointing out a few of our voting deficiencies.
May I add one observation that I find hard to believe, but true ... Since the under 21 age group was allowed to vote since June 1970 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...s_Constitution Quote:
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08-19-18, 08:57 PM | #5218 |
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What claptrap. The Electoral system works perfectly. It works just as it was designed and it is vital to keeping the United States united. Without it the country is governed by just 4 or 5 and there is absolutely no reason for the other 45 to put up with it.
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08-20-18, 12:20 AM | #5219 |
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Actually the Electoral College system was designed to preserve the States' autonomy, i.e. keep them separate and preserve their individual power. The idea was that, while they had to be united to survive they didn't want to give up what they had. Madison wanted all the power to rest in the hands of the People. Others wanted the power to belong to the States. The People were never meant to vote in a Presidential Elections. The States were to appoint the Electors in whatever manner they thought best. As it turned out more and more States decided that it was best to let the People decide.
I see it both ways. On the one hand if the EC was done away with then what happened in 2000 could conceivably happen many times over, with multiple recounts happening over the whole country and a decision possibly never being reached. On the other hand it's not the land that does the voting, or the States proper. If the People are to decide, then is it right for the States to overturn that decision with an all-or-nothing process? In fact it hasn't always been that way. It used to be that the Electors were aligned by votes within the States. The same argument made for the Nation could also be made at the State level. If Utah has six Electors and 60% of the voters are Republican, 30 % Democrat and 10% "other", is it really fair for all six Electors to be Republican? Some States used to divide it; Maine and Nebraska still do. So the EC system was created so the States elect the President, and the People didn't. It still works out that way, even though the people are allowed to vote for the Electors. Is it right? Is it fair? I don't know. I do see that people are unhappy when they think they're voting for the President but the candidate who the people want loses to the candidate the States mandate. Don't take this to mean I'm unhappy with the last Presidential Election. I am, but I didn't want either one of them. "None Of The Above" doesn't get a vote.
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08-20-18, 11:06 AM | #5220 |
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Each country has their own type of voting system
I may think it is weird or unfair. Well I don't live in those countries and it is their citizens who have to protest against it. And I have not seen millions of American in the street demonstrating against the voting system they have. Markus |
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