"VonDos & Co" shipyard! (big images!)

the_frog · 01-14-17, 06:41 PM

... gun outfit of British liner-type troopships? ... very good question ...

On most pictures, hardly any gun is visible. QE/QM carried some AA guns; some sources point at 40 mm Bofors, fitted in the US. Those ships primary protection was their speed.

The slower ships rarely travelled alone, and so their protection against surface attacks was their escort. So my guess, they likely had few or no low angle weapons but a good number of AA-capable guns.

gap · 01-15-17, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by the_frog

So my guess, they likely had few or no low angle weapons but a good number of AA-capable guns.

Thank you mate

One last question: talking about British/Commonwealth troop transports, what would have been in your opinion a realistic proportion between 40mm and other, smaller caliber, AA guns. We know how much more effective Bofors guns were, but I think other factors, like war shortages and weight distribution, would have been taken into account just as well

the_frog · 01-15-17, 02:29 PM

Hello gap,

the share of Bofors and other type of AA weapons may had been rather variable. One major factor was the time (few or no Bofors guns in early war), another the place of refits (British ships rarely received Bofors guns if not refitted in US yards; the US were the primary producers of Bofors guns). I would also guess, those British transports carrying US troops were first to receive Bofors guns ...

Early outfits probably comprised HA versions of 3 inch (either 12 pdr/12 cwt or 20 cwt; the first one was mainly used no smaller vessels so probably not many on troop transports) and 4 inch (Mk. V) guns plus some/few of the older tpye (Mk. II) pompoms. I have no idea if .5 inch Mk. III machine guns were used on transports; same holds for the newer Mk. VIII pompoms. The 20 mm Oerlikons, as the 40 mm Bofors, became increasingly prominent after the US entered the war.

Summary ... much room for speculation and creativity

gap · 01-15-17, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_frog

Summary ... much room for speculation and creativity

Thanks again for your answers

VonDos · 01-17-17, 06:09 PM

Hi everyone!

Some updates related with troop transport re-assembling:

Now, a question:

How where rafts stacked on decks? Where them "free", or vincolated with ropes, supports or what?

Best regards,
Vd

edit, maybe i found something:

VonDos · 01-17-17, 07:42 PM

so...

gap · 01-18-17, 09:20 AM

Well done mate

...but imho the deck doesn't look right yet. The texture you are using looks more like corrugated metal rather than painted wood planks

01-17-17, 06:09 PM	#5
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,223 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 49	Hi everyone! Some updates related with troop transport re-assembling: Now, a question: How where rafts stacked on decks? Where them "free", or vincolated with ropes, supports or what? Best regards, Vd edit, maybe i found something: __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 01-17-17 at 06:29 PM.

01-17-17, 07:42 PM	#6
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,223 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 49	so... __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

01-18-17, 09:20 AM	#7
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,214 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Well done mate ...but imho the deck doesn't look right yet. The texture you are using looks more like corrugated metal rather than painted wood planks __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

01-14-17, 06:41 PM	#1
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 456 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	... gun outfit of British liner-type troopships? ... very good question ... On most pictures, hardly any gun is visible. QE/QM carried some AA guns; some sources point at 40 mm Bofors, fitted in the US. Those ships primary protection was their speed. The slower ships rarely travelled alone, and so their protection against surface attacks was their escort. So my guess, they likely had few or no low angle weapons but a good number of AA-capable guns.

01-15-17, 02:29 PM	#3
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 456 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hello gap, the share of Bofors and other type of AA weapons may had been rather variable. One major factor was the time (few or no Bofors guns in early war), another the place of refits (British ships rarely received Bofors guns if not refitted in US yards; the US were the primary producers of Bofors guns). I would also guess, those British transports carrying US troops were first to receive Bofors guns ... Early outfits probably comprised HA versions of 3 inch (either 12 pdr/12 cwt or 20 cwt; the first one was mainly used no smaller vessels so probably not many on troop transports) and 4 inch (Mk. V) guns plus some/few of the older tpye (Mk. II) pompoms. I have no idea if .5 inch Mk. III machine guns were used on transports; same holds for the newer Mk. VIII pompoms. The 20 mm Oerlikons, as the 40 mm Bofors, became increasingly prominent after the US entered the war. Summary ... much room for speculation and creativity