FOTRS question

[Fifi]

Hi,

Is there any difference in sea rendering between FOTRS 1.3 and FOTRS 2 ?
And between FOTRS 1.3 and FOTRSU?

Just about the sea graphical rendering.

Thanks for the info

[CapnScurvy]

I can't speak for the other FOTRS versions, but Fotrs Ultimate definitely has changes made to the environmental graphics!

Not just the sea, but distant environmental view capabilities too.

Not to get into the weeds too far, but as an example Ultimate has the moon in it's night sky......FOTRS does not.

[Fifi]

Yes the moon missing is very strange. Everything seems to be ok in the folders for the moon though.
I still don’t understand for the moment.
I should download FOTRSU to see what difference in the folders (or in the scene data) makes the moon appear for FOTRSU, but my internet is so slow that’s a pain...
I can check on TMO nevertheless

[CapnScurvy]

Yes, compare....or just take a look at these images. These are taken from the first patrol of the game, at Pearl, at the "Sea" start position. You're looking from the Bridge Station back towards the Oahu Island, about 5 nm away:



Here's the Stock game:




This is the same view in TMO 2.5:





Here's Ultimate's view:





Notice the difference.....like, where's the island in the previous top images?? You can see there's a "reflection" in the water, but no island?! AT 5 nautical miles distance, you should be able to "see" the Oahu Island.

This wasn't by "accident" for Ultimate. I made sure what you'd expect, is what you'll get with the environment. You may also notice the difference in the Island "size" when comparing the Stock game image to Ultimate's. The fact is the optics in Ultimate is as close to real life as it comes when measuring objects. 1000 yards wide is 1000 yards wide in Ultimate.

Speaking of the moon, here's the Stock moon compared to Ultimate's using the same test mission:







I think the images speak for their selves?

[Fifi]

Yes CapnScurvy, the difference is enormous! Looks like an other sim...

As for FOTRS 1.3 by the way (except the moon missing)

Talking about environment, FOTRS have the best SH4 sea rendering by far.
Colors seem to me perfect, only the night sky is not dark enough IMHO. I used to prefer the TMO nights better. Just my taste (even lowering gamma in FOTRS)

I’m completely stuck at getting back the moon in FOTRS. I tried everything i could think of. But i’m not such a good modder than you...
The only thing i did with success, is to give TMO the exact sea rendering as FOTRS (and by the way i have the TMO moon)

[CapnScurvy]

I'll have to get back to you...….I forget what I did, but I can find it.

I've been up to my ears in making the Hydrophone work for all ships, at all reasonable speeds, for Ultimate. We're in the final phase with good results. You'll finally "hear" that slowed down 5 knot Destroyer as it passes by.