US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 408

Jimbuna · 12-20-18, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

What are the US options then?

That would be dependant on what advice the US generals/experts have given.

ikalugin · 12-20-18, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

That would be dependant on what advice the US generals/experts have given.

What you, as a voter, think he should have done?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/u...es-russia.html
Interesting to see this development.

Catfish · 12-20-18, 10:51 AM

^ hehe, seems the US appreciate the russian edfforts in meddling with the elections, and embrace it

If you can't beat them, join them. Interesting times ahead..

Jimbuna · 12-20-18, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin

What you, as a voter, think he should have done?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/u...es-russia.html
Interesting to see this development.

I'm not a US citizen.

Mr Quatro · 12-20-18, 12:10 PM

Putin is on a first name basis with President Trump ... they must be old friends by now, uh?

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...4811545309652/

Putin on Trump decision to leave Syria: 'Donald is right'

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"Donald is right and I agree with him," Putin said in his annual meeting with reporters.
"If the U.S. decided to withdraw its contingent, it has done the right thing.
We see no signs of withdraw, but we admit that this is possible,
especially since we are moving along the path of a political settlement."

Rockstar · 12-20-18, 02:28 PM

From the days of the CCCP I believe Russia has always had very close ties with Syria. It wasnt until the freedom bombs started dropping lately did Russia send its military in to protect their interests in region.

Frankly I would rather deal with Russia who holds more sway over Assad than some new never heard before armed Islamic religious zeolots organization in charge of Syria.

Werent we told ISIS was fighting to oust Assad? Well, ISIS nolonger seems to be a threat. Time to go home.

Skybird · 12-20-18, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

That would be dependant on what advice the US generals/experts have given.

German media reported that eveybody, the defenc eminsitre, thePentagon, the military chief of staff, the intel services - EVERYBODY - told him not to pull out. And that he did not tell them in advance of his decision and that they all were caught on the wrong foot, stunned and surprised.

I said before and I say it again, Russia is not the big issue that influenced the Donald here, but it was Erdoghan calling him out. That Russia and Iran benefits form this deciison, is just a side effect. An obscene side-effect by its dimensions, but still not the original intention.

ikalugin · 12-20-18, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

German media reported that eveybody, the defenc eminsitre, thePentagon, the military chief of staff, the intel services - EVERYBODY - told him not to pull out. And that he did not tell them in advance of his decision and that they all were caught on the wrong foot, stunned and surprised.

But why shouldn't US pull out? What objective do the US forces have in Syria?

Skybird · 12-20-18, 05:28 PM

^ Containment: Iran.
Containment: Russia.
Containment: Turkey.

Containment: IS. It's still alive.

ikalugin · 12-20-18, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

^ Containment: Iran.
Containment: Russia.
Containment: Turkey.

Containment: IS. It's still alive.

Containment via creation and sustainment of a geographically isolated state?

Can you please explain this idea in greater depth?

ikalugin · 12-20-18, 05:42 PM

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46640114
May be related to the whole US-Syria thing.

Skybird · 12-20-18, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Containment via creation and sustainment of a geographically isolated state?

Can you please explain this idea in greater depth?

"We stay in, thus the others must stay out". Simple as that, no better option available anyway.

Skybird · 12-20-18, 06:31 PM

And Mattis throws in the towel.

Trump macht wieder eine Kerbe in seinen Colt.

eddie · 12-20-18, 06:56 PM

Now the White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for our complete withdrawal from Afghanistan for next year. On one side, I would be glad to be out of there, but the other part of me worries about AQ and ISIS setting up terrorist training camps again, which would endanger the whole world.

ikalugin · 12-20-18, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Now the White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for our complete withdrawal from Afghanistan for next year. On one side, I would be glad to be out of there, but the other part of me worries about AQ and ISIS setting up terrorist training camps again, which would endanger the whole world.

Well atleast the drug farming cannot get any worse.

12-20-18, 10:51 AM	#6108
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ hehe, seems the US appreciate the russian edfforts in meddling with the elections, and embrace it If you can't beat them, join them. Interesting times ahead.. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-20-18, 02:28 PM	#6111
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,860 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	From the days of the CCCP I believe Russia has always had very close ties with Syria. It wasnt until the freedom bombs started dropping lately did Russia send its military in to protect their interests in region. Frankly I would rather deal with Russia who holds more sway over Assad than some new never heard before armed Islamic religious zeolots organization in charge of Syria. Werent we told ISIS was fighting to oust Assad? Well, ISIS nolonger seems to be a threat. Time to go home. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 12-20-18 at 02:36 PM.

12-20-18, 05:28 PM	#6114
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,534 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	^ Containment: Iran. Containment: Russia. Containment: Turkey. Containment: IS. It's still alive. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-20-18, 05:42 PM	#6116
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46640114 May be related to the whole US-Syria thing. __________________ Grumpy as always.

12-20-18, 06:31 PM	#6118
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,534 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And Mattis throws in the towel. Trump macht wieder eine Kerbe in seinen Colt. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Now the White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for our complete withdrawal from Afghanistan for next year. On one side, I would be glad to be out of there, but the other part of me worries about AQ and ISIS setting up terrorist training camps again, which would endanger the whole world. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone