UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I have exactly understood what you wrote. Still, all the best.

And to you and yours matey

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Jealousy gets you nowhere.

Far from it jim, I like to see the whole rotten system swept away. If any gong/title came my way I would say bog off.


Moving on to prisons, sorry i mean holiday camps..

Prisoners get hundreds of thousands of pounds in compensation for lost property

More than £850,000 was awarded over the last four years for items including a dressing gown, hair clippers and trainers.




Prisoners have received hundreds of thousands of pounds in taxpayer-funded compensation for lost or damaged property.
Over 10,000 payouts have been made since 2013 for items including a dressing gown, hair clippers and trainers.

A Freedom of Information request from the Press Association showed more than £850,000 was awarded in the last four years.

https://news.sky.com/story/prisoners...perty-11184501

[Jimbuna]

If you ever visited a one you would see the other side and it ain't very pretty.

Trust me on that.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If you ever visited a one you would see the other side and it ain't very pretty.

Trust me on that.

I know a Prison guard and he would disagree with you. He has to call them Sir and not by their names as this could land him in hot water. He has said they have more rights than him.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

I know a Prison guard and he would disagree with you. He has to call them Sir and not by their names as this could land him in hot water. He has said they have more rights than him.

A couple I would visit meant because of the uniform I was wearing there was a requirement to be accompanied by a dog and its handler plus the fact I was expected to leave my 'hardware in a secure box prior to entering.

[STEED]

A conservative think tank is calling for Tory grandee Lord Heseltine to have the whip withdrawn for his "sniping" about Brexit.

Members of the Bow Group have accused the former deputy prime minister of "outright sabotage" and want him expelled from the Tories' Lords group.
It comes after he suggested a Labour government would be preferable to the "long-term disaster" of Brexit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42493735

Bah..Spineless lot, no one has the guts to take on Tarzan.

[Jimbuna]

Tarzan? More like Quisling.

[STEED]

Drunk tanks may have to become the norm in towns and cities to keep "selfish" revellers out of A&E, the head of the NHS in England says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42506706

More like hose them down with cold water.

[Jimbuna]

A date for a fresh round of political talks to restore power sharing in Northern Ireland will be set in the next few days, a DUP MP has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther...itics-42504012

Not before time....these talks are long overdue.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by STEED

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42506706

More like hose them down with cold water.

Why are you wasting medical resources to dealing with drunks? Here in Finland occasional drunks and professional boozers belong to police unless they have injury which requires medical treatment.

Police wake them up and evaluate if they can be trusted to continue on their merry way without interference. If not they are loaded into police van and hauled into jail or 'sobering station' which ever is more appropriate.

In those cases where drunk person has injuries they are either treated on scene by ambulance staff or transported by police or ambulance into hospital A&E for treatment.

A&E is last resort option for those who really need their assistance, not adult nursery.

[Eichhörnchen]

If only Professor Stanley Unwin had gone into politics... he made everything so clear:

[Catfish]

^
Very good, but too late. The explanation for an easier "entry into the common market" will be history, and you will soon have it all back, threepence, sixpence, shilling, florin and all

Which will be fine by me, at least i can then get all the nuts, bolts and all that for british cars by their original designation, without having to tell Rimmer brs. that i need a bearing with a diametre of 68,85 millimeters, when 2 3/4 inch will do

[Jimbuna]

The latest one to jump ship....jumped before he was pushed morelike.

Lord Adonis has said he was forced to resign as an independent advisor after the government "tried to silence" him.

The former Labour minister quit his role as chairman of the government's Infrastructure Commission with an attack on Theresa May's government.

He said it had become "hyper sensitive to any criticism" as Brexit was "infecting" the whole conduct of government - including infrastructure.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42520480

[STEED]

As we near the end of 2017 over all I feel the Government has been bloody awful and the Opposition even worst. As we head into 2018 I see no hope what so ever and the down hill slide will continual. We need a big clean up at Westminster with almighty broom that will not be.

[Catfish]

How i see it with an of course outlandish point of view (not that i really know so much about political logic in my country ), i indeed think that England (which also means the UK, but England setting the course) has bigger problems than "brexit". Some of it is mentioned here in this article:

This is what we really think about Brexit in Germany

"The biggest challenge for me was to try and understand those Brexiteers who enjoy all of the advantages that come with belonging to the EU but still decided to demonise it for being either a socialist conspiracy or a particularly grotesque embodiment of capitalism."

"We travelled through Northern Ireland, Scotland, the South of England and the Midlands, where very often not a single person had anything positive to say about the EU and believed it was responsible for all problems facing the UK – unemployment, lack of integration, low wages, overcrowded schools and hospitals, traffic and the downfall of British industry."

"I was genuinely shocked by the state of some of the towns, and by the many people I met who felt neglected and who were now driven by resentment. It made me feel very German because I longingly thought of the bundesfinanzausgleich (equalisation payment mechanism), a system that aims at balancing the wealth of the Bundesländer and leads to a fairer distribution of funds throughout the country."

"In a more or less desperate attempt to view the situation more objectively, I visualised to what extent the EU is an institution particularly profitable to Germany, politically and economically, and the way it has been glorified by the Germans throughout recent history. I came to realise how distorted the German view of the EU is – distorted by affection, as opposed to the hostility I was observing in the UK."


Also, that: What do Germans think about Brexit? They pity us.

"A couple of Germans will have raised a glass to the British flipping the bird at the EU establishment on Thursday night. But politically that sentiment has been voiced only in minority fringes, such as the Anti-capitalist Left group of the German Left party, or the wilder edges of Alternative für Deutschland, the party that was founded on an anti-euro ticket in 2013 and has since grown on the back of populist anti-refugee messages."

The latter is not what Germany thinks now though, i think. But the shock and disbelief was indeed present and felt here.
Unfortunately, like in Germany, the big clean up mentioned by Steed will probably never come