[REL] Environmental MOD for Silent Hunter 5 - Page 17

jwilliams · 05-22-10, 04:13 AM

Hi W_clear,

The mod looks great. But I'm sorry to say that there seems to be a bug that causes CTD.

I tested this 8 times and the crash heppened everytime in the same place. I do have many mods installed, But I removed your mod and didnt get the CTD again.

The CTD happens at the spot shown in the Screenshot (screenshot taken shortly before the CTD). At 15:59 (gametime) the game CTD with no error message. Traveling in the direction of the waypoints.

Hope you can fix this. The game just doesn't look the same without your mod.

J. Williams.

P.S. mod list and order of installation :-

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.4.0.145
[D:\Simulations\SilentHunter5\MODS]

Accurate German Flags
BRF 1.3 full
GWX Compass Rose Grid for SH5
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
MapNameFix
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
Reboot's Hot Soup 1.0
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51
Icebergs in Campaign v1.2
Nauticalwolf's_Poster_Mod_v1.0
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ColoredShippingChart_by_reaper7
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_emtguf_rework_scopes
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_MinimalDials_TDC
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_Twisty_periscope_thingies
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_WWIIInterface_by_naights
sobers cremebrulee mod
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_naights
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_AltAdvSpeedGraphics_by_naights
Damage assessment
KillerAI MOD v.1.02
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_1_byTheDarkWraith
Environment MOD_2.0
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
U-boat Historical Specifications 1.3

W_clear · 05-22-10, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubV

Simply place AilClimateZones (and other Ailantd's mods) after Environment 2.0 in JSGME. It worked fine for me:

This climate zones fix is nothing but one .tga file, so it cannot conflict with other mods, including Env 2.0.

W_clear, could you ask Ailantd's permission to use his excellent ClimateZones in your mod?

No.

W_clear · 05-22-10, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astradeus

reduce distress for excellence in your mod has a simple problem of climate zones, but because I was interested in him than I can put forward
these inconsistencies that hinder my opinion has greatly his "realism". not only the problem of the Mediterranean Sea. Another example of problem: there is more in the zone file ClimateZone.cfg polar region of the Antarctic continent in the southern hemisphere.

version vallina :

;///////////////////// SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE seasons ///////////////////////
[PolarClimateSouthern]
[PolarClimateSouthern.Season0] ; one season for polar zones
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=0101
.................................................. ......................

how to explain it. thank you.?

sorry for my English

I can create the Mediterranean climate and the color alone. But I think there is no need。

W_clear · 05-22-10, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwilliams

Hi W_clear,

The mod looks great. But I'm sorry to say that there seems to be a bug that causes CTD.

I tested this 8 times and the crash heppened everytime in the same place. I do have many mods installed, But I removed your mod and didnt get the CTD again.

The CTD happens at the spot shown in the Screenshot (screenshot taken shortly before the CTD). At 15:59 (gametime) the game CTD with no error message. Traveling in the direction of the waypoints.

Hope you can fix this. The game just doesn't look the same without your mod.

J. Williams.

P.S. mod list and order of installation :-

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.4.0.145
[D:\Simulations\SilentHunter5\MODS]

Accurate German Flags
BRF 1.3 full
GWX Compass Rose Grid for SH5
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
MapNameFix
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
Reboot's Hot Soup 1.0
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
A Fistful of Emblems v1.51
Icebergs in Campaign v1.2
Nauticalwolf's_Poster_Mod_v1.0
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ColoredShippingChart_by_reaper7
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_emtguf_rework_scopes
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_MinimalDials_TDC
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_Twisty_periscope_thingies
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_WWIIInterface_by_naights
sobers cremebrulee mod
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_naights
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_AltAdvSpeedGraphics_by_naights
Damage assessment
KillerAI MOD v.1.02
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_1_byTheDarkWraith
Environment MOD_2.0
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
U-boat Historical Specifications 1.3

OMG.
You Give me a break。

Stevepine · 05-22-10, 05:56 AM

Which link is it??

this is all I see on the mod page... forgive me for being a noob!

Atlantic.part1.rar
05/15/2009
2,814
700 MB
5%
Download

Atlantic.part2.rar
05/16/2009
1,755
428.26 MB
3%
Download

Environment 1.2_MOD.rar
04/02/2010
2,194
2.85 MB
26%
Download

Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar
05/21/2010
502
4.45 MB
100%
Download

zack · 05-22-10, 05:59 AM

this file,
Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar

SubV · 05-22-10, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W_clear

No.

I like your style, man!

A pair of screen shots made using your mod in English Channel. Impressive, but this doesn't look like Atlantic in any possible way. Skies are too yellow, water is too green.

W_clear · 05-22-10, 06:32 AM

[QUOTE=SubV;1400137]I like your style, man!

A pair of screen shots made using your mod in English Channel. Impressive, but this doesn't look like Atlantic in any possible way. Skies are too yellow, water is too green.

Sorry, I have not been to Atlantic.I hope you can provide pictures of Atlantic.Thanks.

Shiplord · 05-22-10, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwilliams

The CTD happens at the spot shown in the Screenshot (screenshot taken shortly before the CTD). At 15:59 (gametime) the game CTD with no error message. Traveling in the direction of the waypoints.

The problem is the dirty created ClimateZones.tga in this mod, the CTD's with this mod also occur elsewhere on the map.

example of the error:

vanilla SH5:

the whole northsea has the RGB color value 40,0,0
based on the vanilla climatezones.cfg this gives the complete region the
Northern Climate

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=PolarClimateSouthern

this mod:

the values are not constant, especially near the coast, here we have no more constant red values, it varies e.g. 60, 62, 40, 41, 42, 43 for red.
Now if your sub moves from a region of 60 into a region of 42, the game engine can't find the correspond Color42 climate zone because it don't exist in this mod

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=Polar_AClimateNorthern
Color60=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color100=Tropical_AClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=Polar_AClimateSouthern

A similar problem, the Mediterranean in this mod

vanilla SH5:

the whole Mediterranean has a red value of 40 which gives this region
the Northern Climate

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=PolarClimateSouthern

this mod:

the Mediterranean is still at red value 40 but this mod changes the
climatezones.cfg and the whole Mediterranean becomes the "Polar_AClimateNorthern" climate -> snow and ice at the beaches in Northern Africa

Code:

 [Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=Polar_AClimateNorthern
Color60=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color100=Tropical_AClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=Polar_AClimateSouthern

AS · 05-22-10, 06:57 AM

Hi, just a question...

what does the huge "Atlantic" mod do which can be found in your downloadsection??? Do I have to install it for the Environment Mod?

Cheers, AS

SubV · 05-22-10, 07:08 AM

Quote:

2.The new 0 m to 15 m waves.

New and improved waves. Again, these big waves are looking really nice... but this making the targeting on periscope depth impossible. I can't provide a screenshot, since I already uninstalled this mod.

This mod needs heavy beta testing to fix the errors. Until that, it's unplayable.

Nausicaa · 05-22-10, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiplord

The problem is the dirty created ClimateZones.tga in this mod, the CTD's with this mod also occur elsewhere on the map.

example of the error:

vanilla SH5:

the whole northsea has the RGB color value 40,0,0
based on the vanilla climatezones.cfg this gives the complete region the
Northern Climate

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=PolarClimateSouthern

this mod:

the values are not constant, especially near the coast, here we have no more constant red values, it varies e.g. 60, 62, 40, 41, 42, 43 for red.
Now if your sub moves from a region of 60 into a region of 42, the game engine can't find the correspond Color42 climate zone because it don't exist in this mod

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=Polar_AClimateNorthern
Color60=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color100=Tropical_AClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=Polar_AClimateSouthern

A similar problem, the Mediterranean in this mod

vanilla SH5:

the whole Mediterranean has a red value of 40 which gives this region
the Northern Climate

Code:

[Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=PolarClimateSouthern

this mod:

the Mediterranean is still at red value 40 but this mod changes the
climatezones.cfg and the whole Mediterranean becomes the "Polar_AClimateNorthern" climate -> snow and ice at the beaches in Northern Africa

Code:

 [Climate Zones]
DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=Polar_AClimateNorthern
Color60=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color100=Tropical_AClimateNorthern
Color120=TropicalClimateSouthern
Color160=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color200=Polar_AClimateSouthern

Great find - not proper photoshop work I am afraid.

Alex · 05-22-10, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W_clear

LOL.

Sorry, I have not been to Atlantic.I hope you can provide pictures of Atlantic.Thanks.

Do all oriental sunsets look so much like artworks from Picasso on Prozac ? I doubt it somehow...

When colourful, I 'd say an evening looks rather like that..

Otherwise we see mostly that kind of greyish blue.

Part of the Atlantik Wall, with the natural - non-edited Atlantic french sky in the background.

See ?
The environment around here appears not to look like what you can see where you live, indeed.

Basically, if you want to make your mod fit an Atlantic campaign ? Make the environment less colourful.

I feel just like I'm dictating you how to make your mod look good, just as if I was the only european guy at Subsim, ROFL.

W_clear · 05-22-10, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubV

I like your style, man!

A pair of screen shots made using your mod in English Channel. Impressive, but this doesn't look like Atlantic in any possible way. Skies are too yellow, water is too green.

Your PC seems to differte from my PC。I see the color is not so exaggerated。

05-22-10, 11:57 AM

I'm in the Mediterranean. And will be until 1943 i think. Why am i not important?

If i could go back to the atlantic campaign i would but than id have to start back in 1939, damn it. 1/3rd of the game takes place in the med.

And yes, the shipping in the med is like 95% destroyer and the water is shallow, its interesting to be sure

Also docking in egypt is lax, i pulled off a 11KM torpedo shot on some docked ships in Port Al-Saied, the port was full and a tanker and troop transport (even with UZO all i could see were stacks) were moored just outside the harbor mouth, took aim and sank the troop transport, hit the tanker but i was far away at this point. Pitch black night and you just see explosions glowing over the horizon. Also with this mod the night is much darker, i like!

Please fix the med if its not too much trouble.

05-22-10, 04:13 AM	#241
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hi W_clear, The mod looks great. But I'm sorry to say that there seems to be a bug that causes CTD. I tested this 8 times and the crash heppened everytime in the same place. I do have many mods installed, But I removed your mod and didnt get the CTD again. The CTD happens at the spot shown in the Screenshot (screenshot taken shortly before the CTD). At 15:59 (gametime) the game CTD with no error message. Traveling in the direction of the waypoints. Hope you can fix this. The game just doesn't look the same without your mod. J. Williams. P.S. mod list and order of installation :- Generic Mod Enabler - v2.4.0.145 [D:\Simulations\SilentHunter5\MODS] Accurate German Flags BRF 1.3 full GWX Compass Rose Grid for SH5 MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards MapNameFix Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78 Reboot's Hot Soup 1.0 Grossdeutscher Rundfunk A Fistful of Emblems v1.51 Icebergs in Campaign v1.2 Nauticalwolf's_Poster_Mod_v1.0 NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_ColoredShippingChart_by_reaper7 NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_emtguf_rework_scopes NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_MinimalDials_TDC NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_Twisty_periscope_thingies NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_WWIIInterface_by_naights sobers cremebrulee mod NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_naights NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_AltAdvSpeedGraphics_by_naights Damage assessment KillerAI MOD v.1.02 Sub_Exhaust_1_0_1_byTheDarkWraith Environment MOD_2.0 No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator U-boat Historical Specifications 1.3 __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

05-22-10, 06:32 AM	#248
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=SubV;1400137]I like your style, man! A pair of screen shots made using your mod in English Channel. Impressive, but this doesn't look like Atlantic in any possible way. Skies are too yellow, water is too green. Sorry, I have not been to Atlantic.I hope you can provide pictures of Atlantic.Thanks. Last edited by W_clear; 05-22-10 at 10:51 AM.

05-22-10, 06:57 AM	#250
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Hi, just a question... what does the huge "Atlantic" mod do which can be found in your downloadsection??? Do I have to install it for the Environment Mod? Cheers, AS __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

05-22-10, 11:57 AM	#255
MattDizzle Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm in the Mediterranean. And will be until 1943 i think. Why am i not important? If i could go back to the atlantic campaign i would but than id have to start back in 1939, damn it. 1/3rd of the game takes place in the med. And yes, the shipping in the med is like 95% destroyer and the water is shallow, its interesting to be sure Also docking in egypt is lax, i pulled off a 11KM torpedo shot on some docked ships in Port Al-Saied, the port was full and a tanker and troop transport (even with UZO all i could see were stacks) were moored just outside the harbor mouth, took aim and sank the troop transport, hit the tanker but i was far away at this point. Pitch black night and you just see explosions glowing over the horizon. Also with this mod the night is much darker, i like! Please fix the med if its not too much trouble. Last edited by MattDizzle; 05-22-10 at 01:38 PM.

05-22-10, 05:56 AM	#245
Stevepine Planesman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 191 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	Which link is it?? this is all I see on the mod page... forgive me for being a noob! Atlantic.part1.rar 05/15/2009 2,814 700 MB 5% Download Atlantic.part2.rar 05/16/2009 1,755 428.26 MB 3% Download Environment 1.2_MOD.rar 04/02/2010 2,194 2.85 MB 26% Download Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar 05/21/2010 502 4.45 MB 100% Download

05-22-10, 05:59 AM	#246
zack Gunner Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 96 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	this file, Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar