Contract Of Common Sense - Page 4

DrCR · 08-21-09, 01:26 PM

I sure hope Ubisoft the publisher heeds the counsel of the devs for this game. To say one of the last Ubisoft games I played was a disappointment would be an understatement - FC2. And then here was Lomac...

I tend to take the poor college student approach anyway though and wait to buy a game until I can get it for $10 shipped on ebay. For example I got COD4 only a few weeks ago and lurking ebay for SH3 at the moment. FC2 was a painful exception.

FIREWALL · 08-21-09, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Contact

Now you have totaly confused me, so now you say you want to buy sh5 ?

Me TOO! I'm glad his way of makeing a POINT isn't used in the Nail and Needle industry.

Greyghost · 08-21-09, 02:08 PM

I am extremely happy that Ubi has decided to give Silent Hunter another go and really love the fact it's U-boats again. ShIII no longer works on my rig since I am running Vista. I will be purchasing this one out of the gate just as I did all previous releases. I am really looking forward to this one.

Iron Budokan · 08-21-09, 02:08 PM

Dunno about the rest of you guys. But I'm buying a copy as soon as I can. And I'm planning to buy it through SubSim.

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-09, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Dunno about the rest of you guys. But I'm buying a copy as soon as I can. And I'm planning to buy it through SubSim.

Now there is a trooper

longam · 08-21-09, 02:58 PM

FIREWALL · 08-21-09, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

!!! ooT eM

InFlames666 · 08-21-09, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

My first post was satire. Sorry if I was too confusing. My point is that if we don't support the series, the series will die. If the sales for SH5 are not strong, SH6 will never be produced. If sales for SH5 are not strong enough, patches will not be produced. The company will find other things for developers to do instead of supporting a game that nobody is buying.

Therefore, it is in our interests to purchase SH5, even if it is not as great as it could be. Personally, my interest lies in the Pacific with the fleet boats, but I enjoy WWII submarine warfare. I'll play a German u-boat simulation if it's done well enough. If SH5 doesn't do well enough to support future developments, I'll never see the series return to the Pacific.

Razark

thats why i'm going to buy it right when she hit the stores, i'm fine with a few bugs here and there, i'll just have to help get rid of them

razark · 08-21-09, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by InFlames666

thats why i'm going to buy it right when she hit the stores, i'm fine with a few bugs here and there, i'll just have to help get rid of them

As long as there are no major problems, I don't have an issue with an occasional bug. It is in Ubisoft's interest to provide a well tested product.

Shearwater · 08-21-09, 03:40 PM

I won't pre-order the game right away, for two reasons.
First, I want to have some reviews in adance. Granted, SH3 has been as great as expected (or even better), and though I've never played SH4, it was also a great game on its release, despite all the flaws. I just pride myself on healthy skepticism

What I also want to know in advance, and it's been mentioned a couple of times: Hardware specs. The game looks like it'll use some version of the SH4 engine, but I'll just wait and see. Though it's true that Ubi Soft is the only company around that still makes subsim games, I won't buy a game just to shelve it until I buy a new computer, which could be years. To me the increase in hardware requirements during the six or seven years has been almost nauseating, and it's something devs really should give a bit more consideration.

On the major points though, I'd agree with TDK1044, so that's enough for now. It's just that there's no place for bitching like the internet

Rosencrantz · 08-21-09, 04:19 PM

With SH4 I did just what Neal recommended; bought the game right on release, and then put it in the self for a while. I have been myself whining about unfinished products some times, but on the other hand, who can expect to find a company which is capable to offer it's customers 99,5 % finished sub simlation on reasonable price? Sure, Navies and Armies have their combat simulators, but think the price they have paid for them... That's why I think every sub sim needs and will need especially two things to stay alive: the company (as builder) and modders (as people who'll get the job finished).

Greetings,
-RC-

DJSatane · 08-21-09, 05:46 PM

So we supposed to just accept ubi suckage as far as products at release? Ok I will.

Now, lets hope this time around they actually fix multiplayer. Noone fixed sh3 multiplayer bugs, not developers or modders even at this time, there is huge damage server-client bug.

I hope SH5 will concentrate to have better polished multiplayer experience.

People here expect that modders will finish the game, unfortunately without source code modders cannot fix critical multiplayer bugs, this is why till this day sh3 is broken.

pythos · 08-21-09, 07:05 PM

I sinscerely hope that the devs are more involved with the release, and the suits remain relatively silent.

I also hope they make a good damage model for the sub that allows bottoming out, good sound effects like the hull compression as the boat goes deeper, good crew management that removes crew from the upper decks and bridge when the boat dives.

Something like a mix of what Sh3 and Sh4 had as far as crew management is concerned. No superdudes either, that idea did not set well with many here.

On the more picky aspects, I want farewell, and welcome bands when headed out and returning from patrols.

I would also want wolf packs.

But I also hope that the game is more moddable than sh4. I don't like how much like paper airplanes my patrol planes were compared to the allied planes attacking my boat.

This new sim looks great, and I will buy it (funds permitting) when it comes out. I want to support this hobby of mine.

SteamWake · 08-21-09, 07:54 PM

I posted in this thread... its on record

karamazovnew · 08-21-09, 09:38 PM

Everybody wants wolfpacks

. Do you even realize what a wolfpack means in a GAME?! THe germans had at times less than 20 boats covering the atlantic, so everytime one encountered a convoy, all gathered on that route to nibble at their shins. Having 5-10 submerged subs in a 20 mile radius would've been suicide for a lot of reasons. We don't want wolfpacks, we just don't want to feel that we're alone there. Dynamic communications and reports, radio messages from other boats and from the sinking ships, orders that make sense from BdU, weather reports from the entire ocean, that's what wolpacks were all about

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Where was I? Oh yea, endorsement. Well, I just hope they'll release a nice Collector's Edition because I've already saved about 100 bucks for it. I'm gonna preorder it as soon as it's available for preorder

. Heck, I'll pay the guy that can knock me out untill then, I can't wait!

08-21-09, 02:08 PM	#48
Greyghost Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 26 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I am extremely happy that Ubi has decided to give Silent Hunter another go and really love the fact it's U-boats again. ShIII no longer works on my rig since I am running Vista. I will be purchasing this one out of the gate just as I did all previous releases. I am really looking forward to this one. __________________

08-21-09, 02:08 PM	#49
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Dunno about the rest of you guys. But I'm buying a copy as soon as I can. And I'm planning to buy it through SubSim. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

08-21-09, 05:46 PM	#57
DJSatane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So we supposed to just accept ubi suckage as far as products at release? Ok I will. Now, lets hope this time around they actually fix multiplayer. Noone fixed sh3 multiplayer bugs, not developers or modders even at this time, there is huge damage server-client bug. I hope SH5 will concentrate to have better polished multiplayer experience. People here expect that modders will finish the game, unfortunately without source code modders cannot fix critical multiplayer bugs, this is why till this day sh3 is broken. __________________ DJSatane - https://twitter.com/DJSatane

08-21-09, 07:54 PM	#59
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I posted in this thread... its on record __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

08-21-09, 01:26 PM	#46
DrCR Nub Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I sure hope Ubisoft the publisher heeds the counsel of the devs for this game. To say one of the last Ubisoft games I played was a disappointment would be an understatement - FC2. And then here was Lomac... I tend to take the poor college student approach anyway though and wait to buy a game until I can get it for $10 shipped on ebay. For example I got COD4 only a few weeks ago and lurking ebay for SH3 at the moment. FC2 was a painful exception.

08-21-09, 02:58 PM	#51
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0

08-21-09, 03:40 PM	#55
Shearwater Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: SUBSIM Radio Room (kinda obvious, isn't it) Posts: 522 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I won't pre-order the game right away, for two reasons. First, I want to have some reviews in adance. Granted, SH3 has been as great as expected (or even better), and though I've never played SH4, it was also a great game on its release, despite all the flaws. I just pride myself on healthy skepticism What I also want to know in advance, and it's been mentioned a couple of times: Hardware specs. The game looks like it'll use some version of the SH4 engine, but I'll just wait and see. Though it's true that Ubi Soft is the only company around that still makes subsim games, I won't buy a game just to shelve it until I buy a new computer, which could be years. To me the increase in hardware requirements during the six or seven years has been almost nauseating, and it's something devs really should give a bit more consideration. On the major points though, I'd agree with TDK1044, so that's enough for now. It's just that there's no place for bitching like the internet

08-21-09, 04:19 PM	#56
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	With SH4 I did just what Neal recommended; bought the game right on release, and then put it in the self for a while. I have been myself whining about unfinished products some times, but on the other hand, who can expect to find a company which is capable to offer it's customers 99,5 % finished sub simlation on reasonable price? Sure, Navies and Armies have their combat simulators, but think the price they have paid for them... That's why I think every sub sim needs and will need especially two things to stay alive: the company (as builder) and modders (as people who'll get the job finished). Greetings, -RC-

08-21-09, 07:05 PM	#58
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I sinscerely hope that the devs are more involved with the release, and the suits remain relatively silent. I also hope they make a good damage model for the sub that allows bottoming out, good sound effects like the hull compression as the boat goes deeper, good crew management that removes crew from the upper decks and bridge when the boat dives. Something like a mix of what Sh3 and Sh4 had as far as crew management is concerned. No superdudes either, that idea did not set well with many here. On the more picky aspects, I want farewell, and welcome bands when headed out and returning from patrols. I would also want wolf packs. But I also hope that the game is more moddable than sh4. I don't like how much like paper airplanes my patrol planes were compared to the allied planes attacking my boat. This new sim looks great, and I will buy it (funds permitting) when it comes out. I want to support this hobby of mine.

08-21-09, 09:38 PM	#60
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	Everybody wants wolfpacks . Do you even realize what a wolfpack means in a GAME?! THe germans had at times less than 20 boats covering the atlantic, so everytime one encountered a convoy, all gathered on that route to nibble at their shins. Having 5-10 submerged subs in a 20 mile radius would've been suicide for a lot of reasons. We don't want wolfpacks, we just don't want to feel that we're alone there. Dynamic communications and reports, radio messages from other boats and from the sinking ships, orders that make sense from BdU, weather reports from the entire ocean, that's what wolpacks were all about . Where was I? Oh yea, endorsement. Well, I just hope they'll release a nice Collector's Edition because I've already saved about 100 bucks for it. I'm gonna preorder it as soon as it's available for preorder . Heck, I'll pay the guy that can knock me out untill then, I can't wait!