Target speed setting

barker262 · 04-10-14, 09:51 AM

A quick question, with I suspect a long answer.

When you have made your estimate of speed and it seems to be more than something - lets say 8 knts - but not quite nine. Is it worth setting the target speed dial between 8 and 9 or just choose one or the other?

Doing a little meta-gaming, I wonder if the AI can set ship speeds at fractional speed i.e. 8.5 knts or is it just our inaccurate estimates that gives these results.

ParaHandy · 04-10-14, 10:28 AM

I'm new to manual targetting, but for what it's worth I've thought on one or two occasions that the target's speed isn't an exact kph especially if I'm tracking it over multiple 3.15 minute "legs". In those circumstances I'll definitely set the speed midway between.

maillemaker · 04-10-14, 12:21 PM

If you think it's going 8.5 knots, set your speed to 8.5 knots.

Steve

barker262 · 04-10-14, 12:34 PM

Just in the game then, came across a Grandville type, speed estimates said 10 knts. But looked at the ship specs and it had a max of 9. Set 9 and missed behind target, must be doing 10 (should have trusted myself), are the specs in the ship recognition just historical flavour that the game ignores?

Pisces · 04-10-14, 01:05 PM

The recognition manual is really just a guide. It's not where the hardcoded values of the ships come from.

Fractions of knots certainly make a difference. Enter them as best as you can if you need to shoot far away.

Pisces · 04-10-14, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BL!TZKR!EG

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Some guys script nonsense into their missions/campaigns.

Really, if said ship can only do 9 kn max - why in the world would it make sense to script it faster than that?

Maybe because the game allows it (and gets the limit elsewhere), and the campaign/scenario editor (person) doesn't care what a potentially inaccurate intelligence book says it should be.

Even though a mastheight and picture is specified in it, doesn't mean the 3d-model matches it.

BigWalleye · 04-10-14, 05:47 PM

The recognition manuals historically were full of surprises. They were best intelligence available about the capabilities of the enemy's merchant fleet. And the guys that wrote them were NOT on a submarine risking their lives to inflict damage on the enemy. If you measured 10 kt and the book says 9, maybe measure again. (You should have made more than 2 measurements anyway.) But don't trust the book.

"Who ya gonna believe? Me, or your lying eyes?"

If someone deliberately put the 10 kt figure into the campaign to spoof players, good for them.

"But Onkel Karl, the book said Granvilles only do 9 kts. How was I supposed to know this was the B model?"

banryu79 · 04-10-14, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye

"But Onkel Karl, the book said Granvilles only do 9 kts. How was I supposed to know this was the B model?"

BE MORE AGRESSIVE!!

- Onkel Karl

04-10-14, 09:51 AM	#1
barker262 Seaman Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 32 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Target speed setting A quick question, with I suspect a long answer. When you have made your estimate of speed and it seems to be more than something - lets say 8 knts - but not quite nine. Is it worth setting the target speed dial between 8 and 9 or just choose one or the other? Doing a little meta-gaming, I wonder if the AI can set ship speeds at fractional speed i.e. 8.5 knts or is it just our inaccurate estimates that gives these results.

04-10-14, 10:28 AM	#2
ParaHandy Watch Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Clyde Built Posts: 22 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I'm new to manual targetting, but for what it's worth I've thought on one or two occasions that the target's speed isn't an exact kph especially if I'm tracking it over multiple 3.15 minute "legs". In those circumstances I'll definitely set the speed midway between.

04-10-14, 12:21 PM	#3
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	If you think it's going 8.5 knots, set your speed to 8.5 knots. Steve

04-10-14, 12:34 PM	#4
barker262 Seaman Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 32 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Just in the game then, came across a Grandville type, speed estimates said 10 knts. But looked at the ship specs and it had a max of 9. Set 9 and missed behind target, must be doing 10 (should have trusted myself), are the specs in the ship recognition just historical flavour that the game ignores?

04-10-14, 01:05 PM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,892 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	The recognition manual is really just a guide. It's not where the hardcoded values of the ships come from. Fractions of knots certainly make a difference. Enter them as best as you can if you need to shoot far away.

04-10-14, 05:47 PM	#7
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	The recognition manuals historically were full of surprises. They were best intelligence available about the capabilities of the enemy's merchant fleet. And the guys that wrote them were NOT on a submarine risking their lives to inflict damage on the enemy. If you measured 10 kt and the book says 9, maybe measure again. (You should have made more than 2 measurements anyway.) But don't trust the book. "Who ya gonna believe? Me, or your lying eyes?" If someone deliberately put the 10 kt figure into the campaign to spoof players, good for them. "But Onkel Karl, the book said Granvilles only do 9 kts. How was I supposed to know this was the B model?"