Laptop battery death

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-02-09, 06:48 PM

Hey guys,

I've been having some problems with my laptop battery recently. I noticed a while ago that even when plugged in, the status readout read "97% Not Charging", but I thought nothing of it (I very rarely have it on battery power anyway)

Then, a few days ago, I picked up the laptop, and it turned itself off. I know I didnt press any buttons by mistake, it just went "Byoooo". I tried to turn the thing on again, and at first, it worked fine, I could log in, and the desktop displayed as normal. Then, the battery readout appeared, and for a split second read "0%" and the laptop again turned itself off.

It works fine with the battery removed, but I'd like to know what the hell could've happened to make the battery drain itself so quickly, and not charge again?

The laptop model is an Advent 111C (I think, the labels arent on there anymore) and I dont believe it's even a year old. The battery model is an LG Rechargeable Li-lon battery with a 14.4 Vdc rating. (If that helps any)

Any ideas?

FIREWALL · 02-02-09, 06:57 PM

Not that it helps KP but, the LG company is haveing some probs too.

One of the first things I bought for my laptops was bigger batteries.

AVGWarhawk · 02-02-09, 07:14 PM

I did read there was battery issues for some laptops. I'm thinking Sony in particular. I do not remember for sure. Sounds like a crapped out battery. Might google your computer for battery issues.

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-02-09, 07:23 PM

Or storm into PC World with a scornful look.

AVGWarhawk · 02-02-09, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Or storm into PC World with a scornful look.

That works until security shows up to show you the door.

A Very Super Market · 02-02-09, 08:51 PM

Hmm, do you leave the laptop plugged in with the battery in as well? My battery died because of that..

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-02-09, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Hmm, do you leave the laptop plugged in with the battery in as well? My battery died because of that..

Yeah I do

A Very Super Market · 02-02-09, 09:55 PM

Yeah, that's probably why it died. Leaving it plugged in actually doesn't hurt it, but it makes it overheat. That just murders you battery...

SteamWake · 02-03-09, 11:50 AM

Yes leaving it plugged in all the time is not a good idea.

Believe it or not the best way to keep your battery life to its longest is to use it till its almost empty then charge up fully then remove the charger.

Its the nature of these type batterys called 'memory state' here is some info on the subject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect

Although it discusses NiCad's it applies to nearly any rechargable battery.

The batteries are made up of a series of cells hooked up end to end in .. well series. If one of the cells should fail it usually fails to a dead short becomming in effect a piece of wire, furthermore it drops the overall voltage increasing the currrent compounding the problem.

If it were possible you 'could' tear apart the battery case and replace the failed cell. However with the new Lithium or poly batteries they are manufactured so that they cannot be seperated. Once a cell fails the only option is to replace the entire pack. Be careful to get an exact match as these days these battery sets are alot more than just batteries. They have current limiting and overcurrent protection built in.

Good advice, charge your batteries to full capacity, then unplug them. 'Excercise' the battery by discharging fully and recharging fully. Just dont leave it plugged in for days on end.

Even more important dont 'store' the battery in a discharged state.

In the meantime Ive dealt with these folks in the past with decent results http://www.laptopbatteries.com/

Might also want to try Ebay.

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-03-09, 03:31 PM

Thanks SteamWake! Never knew that, thanks for the links!

02-02-09, 06:48 PM	#1
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,902 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Laptop battery death Hey guys, I've been having some problems with my laptop battery recently. I noticed a while ago that even when plugged in, the status readout read "97% Not Charging", but I thought nothing of it (I very rarely have it on battery power anyway) Then, a few days ago, I picked up the laptop, and it turned itself off. I know I didnt press any buttons by mistake, it just went "Byoooo". I tried to turn the thing on again, and at first, it worked fine, I could log in, and the desktop displayed as normal. Then, the battery readout appeared, and for a split second read "0%" and the laptop again turned itself off. It works fine with the battery removed, but I'd like to know what the hell could've happened to make the battery drain itself so quickly, and not charge again? The laptop model is an Advent 111C (I think, the labels arent on there anymore) and I dont believe it's even a year old. The battery model is an LG Rechargeable Li-lon battery with a 14.4 Vdc rating. (If that helps any) Any ideas? __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

02-02-09, 06:57 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Not that it helps KP but, the LG company is haveing some probs too. One of the first things I bought for my laptops was bigger batteries. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-02-09, 07:14 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I did read there was battery issues for some laptops. I'm thinking Sony in particular. I do not remember for sure. Sounds like a crapped out battery. Might google your computer for battery issues. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-02-09, 07:23 PM	#4
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,902 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Or storm into PC World with a scornful look. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

02-02-09, 08:51 PM	#6
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmm, do you leave the laptop plugged in with the battery in as well? My battery died because of that.. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-02-09, 09:55 PM	#8
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's probably why it died. Leaving it plugged in actually doesn't hurt it, but it makes it overheat. That just murders you battery... __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-03-09, 11:50 AM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes leaving it plugged in all the time is not a good idea. Believe it or not the best way to keep your battery life to its longest is to use it till its almost empty then charge up fully then remove the charger. Its the nature of these type batterys called 'memory state' here is some info on the subject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_effect Although it discusses NiCad's it applies to nearly any rechargable battery. The batteries are made up of a series of cells hooked up end to end in .. well series. If one of the cells should fail it usually fails to a dead short becomming in effect a piece of wire, furthermore it drops the overall voltage increasing the currrent compounding the problem. If it were possible you 'could' tear apart the battery case and replace the failed cell. However with the new Lithium or poly batteries they are manufactured so that they cannot be seperated. Once a cell fails the only option is to replace the entire pack. Be careful to get an exact match as these days these battery sets are alot more than just batteries. They have current limiting and overcurrent protection built in. Good advice, charge your batteries to full capacity, then unplug them. 'Excercise' the battery by discharging fully and recharging fully. Just dont leave it plugged in for days on end. Even more important dont 'store' the battery in a discharged state. In the meantime Ive dealt with these folks in the past with decent results http://www.laptopbatteries.com/ Might also want to try Ebay.

02-03-09, 03:31 PM	#10
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,902 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Thanks SteamWake! Never knew that, thanks for the links! __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.