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Canonicus · 10-09-19, 11:22 PM

Your a fool and a sucker if you believe Trump "cares" about you or anyone else. He's thinking about one person.. HIMSELF. This guy would rat his own mother out and throw her under a moving train to save his narcissistic, egoistic orange skin. (which will match his jump-suit very nicely)

vienna · 10-10-19, 01:02 AM

One thing everyone knows about Trump is the fact Trump lies; he lies about anything and everything and he does so only to convenience himself and not out of duty to anyone or anything but himself; the big question is:

Given that Trump is a self-serving SOB who doesn't give a damn about truth or the damage done by his lies, why do the Trumpettes have any reason to believe he telling them the truth about his 'concerns' for them? Isn't it likely the Trumpettes may find themselves an US version of the Kurds when Trump is either given the boot by impeachment or reelection failure in 2020?...

It used to be said the honor of man could be judge in how he honors his debts...

...Trump is not an honorable man:

Unpaid bills pile up in Trump rallies’ wake --

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...d-bills-039631

...and let's not forget a little thing like Trump's promise to reduce the deficit; oh, wait... he's failing in that too:

Donald Trump Promised to Eliminate the Deficit in 8 Years. So Far, He Has Increased it by 68% --

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-defic...-obama-1463802

...but, hey he's doing better than Obama did during his terms, right? Right?...

Quote:

Trump inherited a deficit of $585 billion when he took office in January 2017. That was 58 percent lower than the $1.4 trillion former President Barack Obama inherited in 2009 following the financial crisis, a number his administration slashed over two terms.

Not looking very good as a possible campaign talking point for the GOP...

Seems like Fox News can expect a new Twitter storm from the Chump-In-Chief over the latest Fox News Poll:

Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment --

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...mp-impeachment

..and Giuliani's Turkish dealings are rearing their ugly heads again and Trump's tiny little fingerprints are found on the dealings:

Trump asked Tillerson to interfere in DOJ case against Giuliani client: report --

Quote:

President Trump pressured then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help convince the Department of Justice (DOJ) to drop a criminal investigation against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was also a client of Trump's current personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, Bloomberg reports.

Tillerson refused Trump's 2017 request, saying it would be illegal to interfere with an ongoing investigation. He repeated his stance to then-chief of staff John Kelly in a hallway conversation in the White House.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ainst-giuliani

...wonder what other Turkish entanglements Trump and his minions have been hiding...

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u crank · 10-10-19, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49990160
"Yet the constitution does not expressly require anything other than a vote of the House on impeachment itself and a majority threshold for any referral of the matter to the Senate for trial"

And of course that is true. The question that begs to be asked though is why. If Pelosi and the Democrats hope to claim the moral high ground they won't be able to if they go the route they are currently on. Yes the Whistleblower's identity should be protected (for now), but why are Democrats holding closed door meetings and then selectively leaking talking points to the media?

If Democrats have any hope of removing Trump by impeachment it will have to be a biapartisan effort. So far it is not and looks more like a 2020 campaign effort.

It is refreshing to see though that not all the left wing media outlets are giving blanket exoneration to the Biden's corrupt dealings. If Joe Biden wins the Democrat nomination he will have to spend his entire campaign defending himself. And his Lefty MSM defenders will once again be embarrassingly wrong.

Quote:

But that doesn’t mean the Bidens’ behavior isn’t a legitimate problem for Democrats. Indeed, Biden has been taking political hits over of the intersection of his family’s financial dealings and his own political career for some four decades. Yet he has done nothing publicly to inoculate himself from the charge that his career is corruptly enriching his family, and now that is a serious liability.

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/09/...-family-money/

Quote:

At the time, here’s how Daria Kaleniuk, head of Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Action Center, put it to the Wall Street Journal: “If an investigator sees the son of the vice president of the United States is part of the management of a company … that investigator will be uncomfortable pushing the case forward.”

That, of course, is simply obvious, and it is the entire reason Hunter Biden was paid so handsomely to do nothing but sell his name to the company. That’s corruption. Enough.

Skybird · 10-10-19, 05:57 AM

"In full view of the world and the American people, Donald Trump has violated his oath of office, betrayed this nation and committed impeachable acts, (...) To preserve our Constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached."

You probably all know who said this, and by knowledge of the author's name some of you will already dismiss it. But it does not tmatter who said it. What matters is that it is the plain, sober summary of truth that is the basis for why Trump must be chased out of office.

He does not damage just a policy, an interest, a project. He damages the very constitutional fundament of the United States and its offices and services maintaining it and the very spirit and meaning on which they have been founded. He is eroding the justice branch and the independence of the law. He erdoes the selfunderstandinf and integrity of America. He betrays what historically the US has always stood for. He puts himself above the law. And he is so full of himself that he openly brags about this while doing it before running mikes and cameras, that convinced he is of his greatness that thinks he can even now get away with it. He should not. Not matter what it costs, he should not.

Basic integrity and trustworthiness of this thing named the United States. The remains of these two are what Trump has demolished, and wants to demolish more. For his own personal interests. Its not for a higher cause. Its not for the better of the people. Its for egoism of criminal proportions.

As a former psychologist I stick to what I earlier said. the man is a megalomaniac psychopath and has a deeply anti-social personality. Lacking education can be cured - by education. A pathologic personality cannot. There is no therapy. You can only protect the public by locking the subject away.

Skybird · 10-10-19, 06:08 AM

"They (the Kurds) didn't help us in the second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Has this moron really just more dirt in his head? Is there nothing in this carricature of a man that does not smell rotten and foul? Disgusting.

The Kurds took the lions share of bleeding and dying for the US. against the IS, which was a threat to the US interests as well. Now, eRdoghan uses Islmaic extrmeists as fanatical as IS, to inavde Syria. Thanks to Trump. And the IS prisoners will get set free by the Kurds, if they do not execute them in scores and numbers, and they will all go - not to the US, but to Europe. Well, at leats that is somethign the Eurppeans cnanot complain about, the yhave had time enough to get their acts together on that and to seal off their borders - and decided not to do so, but to annoucne even more invitaitons to the world instead. Btu for itself, the "logic" behind Trumps comments on IS fighters now fleeing to Europe and that therefore he doe snto care, is a insult once again.

Méo · 10-10-19, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

"They (the Kurds) didn't help us in the second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Noo, did he really say that? Link please.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 10-10-19, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo

Noo, did he really say that? Link please.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...normandy-video

I will note that having watched the video myself Trump is citing some source without giving any details so I'd take it with a gain of salt. Now for the president to back stab the Kurd's who have done much of the grunt work in the fight against ISIS and then to say "Well they didn't help us in a war that happened 70-something years ago so who really cares what happens to them now" is disgusting and outrageous. I won't be surprised if nations like Jordan start to break their ties with the US.

August · 10-10-19, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canonicus

Your a fool and a sucker if you believe Trump "cares" about you or anyone else. He's thinking about one person.. HIMSELF. This guy would rat his own mother out and throw her under a moving train to save his narcissistic, egoistic orange skin. (which will match his jump-suit very nicely)

Liberal tears of rage and impotence are just delicious!

August · 10-10-19, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

As a former psychologist I stick to what I earlier said. the man is a megalomaniac psychopath and has a deeply anti-social personality. Lacking education can be cured - by education. A pathologic personality cannot. There is no therapy. You can only protect the public by locking the subject away.

Now you pretend to be a doctor. Why don't you go back to demanding the murder of the families of world leaders that you don't like Herr Doktor?

Dowly · 10-10-19, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

What was that thing about using nazi comparisons meaning you have lost the argument Comrade?

Canonicus · 10-10-19, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Liberal tears of rage and impotence are just delicious!

Sorry the truth hurts you and the rest of the Fuehrer,s fanatics. Did it hurt to insert your head up trumps ass? Good news is that you now have a brown nose to match the brown shirt you wear so proudly for the fatherland.

August · 10-10-19, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canonicus

Sorry the truth hurts you and the rest of the Fuehrer,s fanatics. Did it hurt to insert your head up trumps ass? Good news is that you now have a brown nose to match the brown shirt you wear so proudly for the fatherland.

Careful son. Calling board members nazis and other personal insults is likely to get you a time out.

Canonicus · 10-10-19, 10:04 AM

Woop dee doo! I'll take the punishment!

BTW.. seen the Fox News poll? Your boys in real trouble now.
Or will you call them "fake news" too?

Skybird · 10-10-19, 10:16 AM

Dishing out is more fun than taking it, and August for as long as I know him here on the board has been a master of underhanded rhetorics himself, so he is not the right one to complain.

The poll:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...mp-impeachment

A poll is a poll, nothing more, but then: also nothing less.

Jimbuna · 10-10-19, 10:22 AM

One and only appeal to tone down the name calling and personal attacks.

10-10-19, 05:57 AM	#7669
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,554 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	"In full view of the world and the American people, Donald Trump has violated his oath of office, betrayed this nation and committed impeachable acts, (...) To preserve our Constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached." You probably all know who said this, and by knowledge of the author's name some of you will already dismiss it. But it does not tmatter who said it. What matters is that it is the plain, sober summary of truth that is the basis for why Trump must be chased out of office. He does not damage just a policy, an interest, a project. He damages the very constitutional fundament of the United States and its offices and services maintaining it and the very spirit and meaning on which they have been founded. He is eroding the justice branch and the independence of the law. He erdoes the selfunderstandinf and integrity of America. He betrays what historically the US has always stood for. He puts himself above the law. And he is so full of himself that he openly brags about this while doing it before running mikes and cameras, that convinced he is of his greatness that thinks he can even now get away with it. He should not. Not matter what it costs, he should not. Basic integrity and trustworthiness of this thing named the United States. The remains of these two are what Trump has demolished, and wants to demolish more. For his own personal interests. Its not for a higher cause. Its not for the better of the people. Its for egoism of criminal proportions. As a former psychologist I stick to what I earlier said. the man is a megalomaniac psychopath and has a deeply anti-social personality. Lacking education can be cured - by education. A pathologic personality cannot. There is no therapy. You can only protect the public by locking the subject away. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-10-19 at 06:39 AM.

10-10-19, 06:08 AM	#7670
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,554 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	"They (the Kurds) didn't help us in the second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy." Has this moron really just more dirt in his head? Is there nothing in this carricature of a man that does not smell rotten and foul? Disgusting. The Kurds took the lions share of bleeding and dying for the US. against the IS, which was a threat to the US interests as well. Now, eRdoghan uses Islmaic extrmeists as fanatical as IS, to inavde Syria. Thanks to Trump. And the IS prisoners will get set free by the Kurds, if they do not execute them in scores and numbers, and they will all go - not to the US, but to Europe. Well, at leats that is somethign the Eurppeans cnanot complain about, the yhave had time enough to get their acts together on that and to seal off their borders - and decided not to do so, but to annoucne even more invitaitons to the world instead. Btu for itself, the "logic" behind Trumps comments on IS fighters now fleeing to Europe and that therefore he doe snto care, is a insult once again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-10-19 at 06:44 AM.

10-10-19, 10:16 AM	#7679
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,554 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Dishing out is more fun than taking it, and August for as long as I know him here on the board has been a master of underhanded rhetorics himself, so he is not the right one to complain. The poll: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...mp-impeachment A poll is a poll, nothing more, but then: also nothing less. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-10-19, 10:22 AM	#7680
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	One and only appeal to tone down the name calling and personal attacks. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

10-09-19, 11:22 PM	#7666
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 431 Downloads: 623 Uploads: 7	Your a fool and a sucker if you believe Trump "cares" about you or anyone else. He's thinking about one person.. HIMSELF. This guy would rat his own mother out and throw her under a moving train to save his narcissistic, egoistic orange skin. (which will match his jump-suit very nicely)

10-10-19, 10:04 AM	#7678
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 431 Downloads: 623 Uploads: 7	Woop dee doo! I'll take the punishment! BTW.. seen the Fox News poll? Your boys in real trouble now. Or will you call them "fake news" too?