UK Politics Thread - Page 507

Jimbuna · 01-18-18, 08:00 AM

I doubt anyone on either side of the divide can honestly say they have the answer/s.

Meanwhile, Britain stumps up a further £44 million for Channel border security.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42723401

Jimbuna · 01-18-18, 08:05 AM

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A fresh round of talks aimed at restoring devolution in Northern Ireland has been announced by the secretary of state.

Talks involving all five main parties will begin next Wednesday, 24 January.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42721153

At long last and hopefully they will lead to a resumption of some level of 'normality'.

Catfish · 01-18-18, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I doubt anyone on either side of the divide can honestly say they have the answer/s. [...]

I agree.
However when i create a situation on one certain "side of the divide", i should a) stay in office and take responsibility and b) have maybe at least one answer. But it is all a game, for them. And their pensions are solid.

Not that Germany's politicians are any better right now..

Jimbuna · 01-18-18, 08:58 AM

True that

STEED · 01-18-18, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I doubt anyone on either side of the divide can honestly say they have the answer/s.

Meanwhile, Britain stumps up a further £44 million for Channel border security.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42723401

Appeaser May at it again.

STEED · 01-18-18, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

But it is all a game, for them. And their pensions are solid.

Of course it is, I hate career politician's who are a load of B'stards. The whole political system is out of date and needs a big broom to sweep away the rotten system that suites this lot. But I know it will never ever happen and it's only going to get worst. As for their pensions they have to win two elections that don't have to be back to back, once they done that they are set up to the day they snuff it.

Skybird · 01-19-18, 07:42 AM

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(...)
Tyranny in democratic republics does not proceed in the same way, however. It ignores the body and goes straight for the soul. The master no longer says: You will think as I do or die. He says: You are free not to think as I do. You may keep your life, your property, and everything else. But from this day forth you shall be as a stranger among us. You will retain your civic privileges, but they will be of no use to you. For if you seek the votes of your fellow citizens, they will withhold them, and if you seek only their esteem, they will feign to refuse even that. You will remain among men, but you will forfeit your rights to humanity. When you approach your fellow creatures, they will shun you as one who is impure. And even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they, too, be shunned in turn. Go in peace, I will not take your life, but the life I leave you with is worse than death.
(...)
It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle.

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Jimbuna · 01-19-18, 10:28 AM

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Downing Street has said there are "no specific plans" for a bridge between the UK and France after Boris Johnson floated the idea of a "fixed link".

The UK foreign secretary reportedly ran the idea past French President Emmanuel Macron at a summit on Thursday.

But Downing Street said he had been referring to a panel looking at Anglo-French major projects.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42743909

Boris at it again!!

There's never a show without Punch

Moonlight · 01-19-18, 11:03 AM

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Migrants in Calais will be fast-tracked to the UK after PM bows to the French: Visa applications will now take just one month after May and Macron agree 'Sandhurst Treaty' shake up

Theresa May is not content with getting shafted enough at home so she went out and got herself a French toyboy to shaft her as well, a bloody whore would be prosecuted for dropping her panties in public like Theresa has but that won't happen to this tory bitch will it.
I hope those who voted for her can see her for what she really is, an appeaser with no backbone and the morals of a bleeding alley cat, I'll bet the tory voters were wetting themselves at the prospect of having another Maggie Thatcher on their hands but instead they've got this hunt.
Hmmmmm, I've spelled that last word wrong.

Jimbuna · 01-19-18, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Theresa May is not content with getting shafted enough at home so she went out and got herself a French toyboy to shaft her as well, a bloody whore would be prosecuted for dropping her panties in public like Theresa has but that won't happen to this tory bitch will it.
I hope those who voted for her can see her for what she really is, an appeaser with no backbone and the morals of a bleeding alley cat, I'll bet the tory voters were wetting themselves at the prospect of having another Maggie Thatcher on their hands but instead they've got this hunt.
Hmmmmm, I've spelled that last word wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42723401

Moonlight · 01-19-18, 05:29 PM

^Thank you for that link old boy, I'm getting senile in my old age.

STEED · 01-20-18, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Theresa May is not content with getting shafted enough at home so she went out and got herself a French toyboy to shaft her as well, a bloody whore would be prosecuted for dropping her panties in public like Theresa has

Send that to the PM, and post her reply here.

I suspect it will probably read..

Dear Mr Moonlight

Thank you for your letter, unfortunately the PM is very busy with matter of state and is unavailable to read your letter at the present time. On behalf of her Majority's government thank you for your letter.

No.10

Jimbuna · 01-20-18, 08:10 AM

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French President Emmanuel Macron has suggested the UK could get a special trade deal with the EU after Brexit.

But he warned that Britain would not have full access to the single market without accepting its rules.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42757026

Oui

STEED · 01-20-18, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42757026

Oui

This seems to suggest they are trying to keep us in the EU framework.

Jimbuna · 01-20-18, 08:15 AM

I doubt either side is finished with the horsetrading yet...the day is still young.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd. (...) Tyranny in democratic republics does not proceed in the same way, however. It ignores the body and goes straight for the soul. The master no longer says: You will think as I do or die. He says: You are free not to think as I do. You may keep your life, your property, and everything else. But from this day forth you shall be as a stranger among us. You will retain your civic privileges, but they will be of no use to you. For if you seek the votes of your fellow citizens, they will withhold them, and if you seek only their esteem, they will feign to refuse even that. You will remain among men, but you will forfeit your rights to humanity. When you approach your fellow creatures, they will shun you as one who is impure. And even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they, too, be shunned in turn. Go in peace, I will not take your life, but the life I leave you with is worse than death. (...) It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle. - Alexis de Tocqueville - __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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