Just got my new Type II D - awesome!

VonApist · 03-26-12, 02:50 AM

I have been playing the game for some years , always choosing Wilhelmshaven as a base for convenience purposes (closer to the action). I would usually choose between a VIIB and a IX boat. In my first years I would upgrade to an IX as soon as I had the chance to, as more torpedoes and fuel appealed to me.

My problem with the IX was the fact that I was getting very high tonnage and at some point it seemed more "arcade" like than actually "realistic". Mind you, in all my games (SH3+ GWX+Commander) I play a minimum of 85% realism.

In the latter years I preferred to stick with the VIIB until the VIIC was available, as i cherished its manoeverability and "all weather" attributes. And probabilities of survival from 1942-43 onwards.

So last month I decided to go to try an all Type-II carreer and see how far in the war I can make it.

Tonnages slipped to more realistic numbers (which is VERY fine with me). I have completed 8 patrols for 90,000 tons which is "lower" than any 8 patrols with VIIB and IX boats - but it feels SO much better.

The Type -II carries only 5 (as u all know) which makes target selection, approach and attack much more demanding. No fishes to spare (hence I always use T-I's on impact trying for a 90 degree shot and so far I only had 2 duds).
My first boat (IIA) was tested and its maximum depth was 170m before taking any damage. Given its small size, 160-165 meters of depth is adequate for evation purposes.

In my last patrol, a Type II-D was made available, and im at my first patrol with it.

It looks great (conning tower is awesome) and Im gonna stick into it as long as possible.

Even the issue of keeping the right depth (a bit tricky with the IIA) is much better now. Altough to dive deeper than 140m you have to move with at least 3 knots (which makes silent running tough) i still love it.

I was very fond of VII's but it seems that the Type II-D has just stolen my heart

Anyone else with the same feelings?

Jonny · 03-26-12, 03:13 AM

I am the same love the IX boats, at the moment i pay on 51% as its been 2 years since i last played on 100%, after i complete the first war i will saw as hell be going 100% realism, and i think you jsut inspired me to trya nd stick with II's and VII in later war if convinent.

Thanks for the inspiration dude,

Jonny

postalbyke · 03-27-12, 12:01 AM

Dedicated, Motivated Type II addict here!

I just messed around until I found this little dugout, and it really can't be beat!
The only difference for me is that I use four TII's and one TI (snapshot, self-defense weapon) in an attempt to stay even stealthier.

I think it might say something about my character (good, bad, whatever) but I rarely leave PD unless there's an airplane involved. Just hit silent running, 14m depth, and DC's tend to explode beneath you

I still haven't gotten out of 1942, but I'm still trying... I just keep wandering into mine fields (NYGM)

Luno · 03-27-12, 02:18 PM

They type II is very lovable indeed. I'm on my second campaign with one, at 100% difficulty. I do like the shortness of the patrols, but the IIA is not as maneuverable as I thought (35 seconds to dive, which is the same as a type IX; the IID dives in 25 seconds).

The only disappointment is the lack of deck-gun, and lack of convoy targets (only lone freighters on the East coast).

My personal opinion is that it's still too easy to get kills, type II or otherwise. I'm going to try OLC's Gui which changes how the stadimeter works, and I'm going to try to work on the recognition manual to incorporate the 2-D drawings, made by other forum members, to replace the perfect 3-D renditions (should be a simple process in GIMP, but there are a lot of entries). That should "improve" kill counts a bit.

Can I ask what mods you are using, VonApist?

bigboywooly · 03-27-12, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Luno

The only disappointment is the lack of deck-gun, and lack of convoy targets (only lone freighters on the East coast).

Between Methil roads and Bergen ( and back ) there are regular convoys from around Dec 39 until occupation of Norway
Plenty of neutral merchants tho
In fact some convoys are just neutrals - guarded by the RN

flag4 · 03-27-12, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Between Methil roads and Bergen ( and back ) there are regular convoys from around Dec 39 until occupation of Norway
Plenty of neutral merchants tho
In fact some convoys are just neutrals - guarded by the RN

@bbw...is this what you mean ?

VonApist · 03-27-12, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luno

They type II is very lovable indeed. I'm on my second campaign with one, at 100% difficulty. I do like the shortness of the patrols, but the IIA is not as maneuverable as I thought (35 seconds to dive, which is the same as a type IX; the IID dives in 25 seconds).

The only disappointment is the lack of deck-gun, and lack of convoy targets (only lone freighters on the East coast).

My personal opinion is that it's still too easy to get kills, type II or otherwise. I'm going to try OLC's Gui which changes how the stadimeter works, and I'm going to try to work on the recognition manual to incorporate the 2-D drawings, made by other forum members, to replace the perfect 3-D renditions (should be a simple process in GIMP, but there are a lot of entries). That should "improve" kill counts a bit.

Can I ask what mods you are using, VonApist?

GWX Gold + Commander + a bunch of other mods for graphs, damage etc etc, long list

03-26-12, 02:50 AM	#1
VonApist Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greece Posts: 175 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Just got my new Type II D - awesome! I have been playing the game for some years , always choosing Wilhelmshaven as a base for convenience purposes (closer to the action). I would usually choose between a VIIB and a IX boat. In my first years I would upgrade to an IX as soon as I had the chance to, as more torpedoes and fuel appealed to me. My problem with the IX was the fact that I was getting very high tonnage and at some point it seemed more "arcade" like than actually "realistic". Mind you, in all my games (SH3+ GWX+Commander) I play a minimum of 85% realism. In the latter years I preferred to stick with the VIIB until the VIIC was available, as i cherished its manoeverability and "all weather" attributes. And probabilities of survival from 1942-43 onwards. So last month I decided to go to try an all Type-II carreer and see how far in the war I can make it. Tonnages slipped to more realistic numbers (which is VERY fine with me). I have completed 8 patrols for 90,000 tons which is "lower" than any 8 patrols with VIIB and IX boats - but it feels SO much better. The Type -II carries only 5 (as u all know) which makes target selection, approach and attack much more demanding. No fishes to spare (hence I always use T-I's on impact trying for a 90 degree shot and so far I only had 2 duds). My first boat (IIA) was tested and its maximum depth was 170m before taking any damage. Given its small size, 160-165 meters of depth is adequate for evation purposes. In my last patrol, a Type II-D was made available, and im at my first patrol with it. It looks great (conning tower is awesome) and Im gonna stick into it as long as possible. Even the issue of keeping the right depth (a bit tricky with the IIA) is much better now. Altough to dive deeper than 140m you have to move with at least 3 knots (which makes silent running tough) i still love it. I was very fond of VII's but it seems that the Type II-D has just stolen my heart Anyone else with the same feelings? __________________ "Submariners are a special brotherhood, either all come to the surface or no one does. On a submarine, the phrase all for one and one for all is not just a slogan, but reality.” -- VADM Rudolf Golosov

03-26-12, 03:13 AM	#2
Jonny Admiral Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 72 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	I am the same love the IX boats, at the moment i pay on 51% as its been 2 years since i last played on 100%, after i complete the first war i will saw as hell be going 100% realism, and i think you jsut inspired me to trya nd stick with II's and VII in later war if convinent. Thanks for the inspiration dude, Jonny __________________ 100% Realism GWX 3.0 Patch V16B1 My Youtube Channel For SH3 tutorials Wolfpack Commander Steam Group

03-27-12, 12:01 AM	#3
postalbyke Chief Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the past... Posts: 321 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 1	Dedicated, Motivated Type II addict here! I just messed around until I found this little dugout, and it really can't be beat! The only difference for me is that I use four TII's and one TI (snapshot, self-defense weapon) in an attempt to stay even stealthier. I think it might say something about my character (good, bad, whatever) but I rarely leave PD unless there's an airplane involved. Just hit silent running, 14m depth, and DC's tend to explode beneath you I still haven't gotten out of 1942, but I'm still trying... I just keep wandering into mine fields (NYGM) __________________ God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. -Voltaire

03-27-12, 02:18 PM	#4
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	They type II is very lovable indeed. I'm on my second campaign with one, at 100% difficulty. I do like the shortness of the patrols, but the IIA is not as maneuverable as I thought (35 seconds to dive, which is the same as a type IX; the IID dives in 25 seconds). The only disappointment is the lack of deck-gun, and lack of convoy targets (only lone freighters on the East coast). My personal opinion is that it's still too easy to get kills, type II or otherwise. I'm going to try OLC's Gui which changes how the stadimeter works, and I'm going to try to work on the recognition manual to incorporate the 2-D drawings, made by other forum members, to replace the perfect 3-D renditions (should be a simple process in GIMP, but there are a lot of entries). That should "improve" kill counts a bit. Can I ask what mods you are using, VonApist? __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.