US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[August]

Well Bientes extensive research aside, apparently I am not the only one who feels this way:


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...207-story.html

Is Trump the new Teddy Roosevelt?


"By Godfrey!" Theodore Roosevelt seethed. "I'll get them on the record yet!"
A young state legislator in Albany, N.Y., Roosevelt declared war against the bosses of Tammany Hall. The president on Mount Rushmore has since become more mountain than man. But how much do we really remember about how he made his mark on America? History has a way of making the future seem inevitable.

The rise of Teddy Roosevelt was strangely similar to that of President Donald Trump.
There's an uncanny likeness between the two: A mythical fascination with the military, a projection of boundless energy, unique physical flair (Roosevelt's spectacles and teeth were so famous that people drew them on envelopes to write to the White House; Trump's orange skin and blond hair are the subject of memes everywhere); a throw-the-bastards-out reformist image, a disposition toward action and authority.


Both candidates transformed traditional relationships with the media.
People forget that Roosevelt had a temper. He stomped, he stormed, he beat his way through opposition like a dog on attack. He snapped his teeth viciously, threw speeches like punches and understood the awesome power of media. He campaigned through newspapers and witch hunts. He pioneered the art of spin, twisted facts and blasted enemies through explosive headlines.


"Speak softly and carry a big stick"? That was advice for other people.
Roosevelt crusaded to right wrongs; he saw the world's injustices in black and white. When someone or something was in his crosshairs he whipped up a populist fury until public outrage carried him to victory.


Sound like someone you know? A president with a terrific temperament and a big bark? A vicious counterpuncher? During the campaign, Trump transformed the traditional candidate-press relationship by demonstrating what we all know: When you are the news, your social media can reach anyone. You don't need no stinking newspapers. They're just whipping boys, foils, smaller kids who can't hit back when you beat them up to feel good.

[August]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

See August ... Bleiente reads ... you put him down too soon.

Put him down? I just told him that I bet I read more about TR than he did which was in response to him rudely suggesting that I have never read a book in my life.

You should apologize for being rude.

Well I think you should apologize to me for being a buttinski and being wrong.

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

If we could split, I would support that even if it was difficult for my side. I would much rather prefer challenges avoiding poverty than being in a blue state totalitarian government.

Your article reminds me of this

https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

The author clearly is trying to make it sound like us poor red States couldn't make it without the Metropolitan centers. I sure would be willing to find out. And I would say to the author of that article, hope you can feed yourself add extract all the fuel you need from the ground without us

I somewhat agree although they do have the numbers to take what they want.



Were a split to happen however though the rural areas should expect a lot of refugees. If the US is going to split up there are a lot of us now living in Blue Land that are going to want to make it to the free states before the new Iron Curtain goes up.

[vienna]

Was TR a woosy with 'bone spurs' who was afraid to get a little wet? Was TR the sort of President to dodge responsibility for his actions or to make weak excuses for acts of severe ethical and/or moral failing? (Then, again, TR seems not have had those kind of failings.) Sorry, as much as the Trumpettes may want to put lipstick on their pig, still no one is asking it to the prom. The mid-terms proved that Trump has no political "coattails" (hell, he's probably got less than 'vest tails') and the majority of the voting public still ain't backing his hand. Compare all you like, but Donny still comes out the loser that he is...

...and, oh yes, heard today two more House sets have flipped towards the DEMs; must be that "Trump Effect", huh?...











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[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by August

I somewhat agree although they do have the numbers to take what they want.



Were a split to happen however though the rural areas should expect a lot of refugees. If the US is going to split up there are a lot of us now living in Blue Land that are going to want to make it to the free states before the new Iron Curtain goes up.

You would be required to exchange one of our welfare recipients to your Blue state. Then you would be welcome. See, in the Red States of America, welfare would be very limited, subject to a means and ability test, and time limited. So we may as well move the unfortunate to the Blue States of America, where the people love and want to take care of the poor.

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

You would be required to exchange one of our welfare recipients to your Blue state. Then you would be welcome. See, in the Red States of America, welfare would be very limited, subject to a means and ability test, and time limited. So we may as well move the unfortunate to the Blue States of America, where the people love and want to take care of the poor.

Well with cousins in Texas, Indiana, Ohio and North Dakota i'm sure that we could come up with a deadbeat or three yearning for the city lights.

[Buddahaid]

I suppose you will just have to suffer as the blue states states won't be subsidizing the red states with their tax dollars.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...low-tax-states

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, cancel the succession. We'll stay in the union until the Blue States run out of money

[Catfish]

https://countryeconomy.com/countries...lifornia/texas


Next look when the rests of oil have been quenched out

Originally Posted by August

I just told him that I bet I read more about TR than he did which was in response to him rudely suggesting that I have never read a book in my life.

And I sincerely apologize for that.
Nevertheless, I think you should reflect your opinion and yourself.
Blind idol worship has never been good...

[August]

Originally Posted by Bleiente

And I sincerely apologize for that.
Nevertheless, I think you should reflect your opinion and yourself.
Blind idol worship has never been good...

Except that I don't blindly worship anyone. I didn't vote for Trump but I have grown rather fond of him based on his actions since he became president. SCJ's, tax cuts, etc and like I have said before he continues to piss off all the right people!

[em2nought]

The democrats will eventually win the day, and Republicans will have been so vilified by then that killing conservatives will eventually be viewed in the same manner as hanging Hitler's henchmen at Nuremburg. After the conservatives are "erased" the USA will become another Venezuela when there isn't anymore wealth to take from somebody else. Not a very nice bedtime story is it?


...and then the Chinese who are in it to win it pay a visit.
结束
Jiéshù

[Buddahaid]

Bull. Stop trying to divide the country with that crap.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Bull. Stop trying to divide the country with that crap.

The country is already divided.

[Buddahaid]

I don't think it's as divided as you think, or any worse then it ever was in general. The division is what people make of it. If you choose to see it that way, it's all you will ever see, so choose differently.