Subsim Narwhal Contest - Mod is now available, see post #662 - Page 9

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

IMO the 4-inchers look more suitable for upsizing, the 5-inch has a lifting breech, like an artillery peice (essentially what it is)
but the 6-inchers had plug breeches, which fit right into the barrel, like a battleship's guns.
the 4-inchers have this same look, and it wouldnt take me long to work a 6-incher out of one

good, that's what I did partly for the IJN gun.

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 03:23 AM

Photo provided by D.L. Raley EMCS (SS) Ret.

patch :

http://www.earth2.net/usnavy/ss167/ss167_02.php

http://www.earth2.net/usnavy/ss167/ss167_01.php

Quote:

This site is maintained by Harry Kholer, son of
Harry F Kholer, EM1c, USS Narwhal SS-167. Dad spoke often and well of the Narwhal.
This site is dedicated to him and to the crew.

this is a model of the Narwhal, so you now have the RL color scheme Sledge (not unlike the one I made..

keltos

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 03:30 AM

As we do for the IJN campaign, I think someone ought to make RL type missions for the Narwhal, a kindo dedicated campaign in a way (since you all so love that sub

)

here is the log that can help with that :

http://www.earth2.net/usnavy/ss167/ss167_05.php

RL patrols !

keltos

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 03:45 AM

found the blueprints and other stuff :

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 06-28-09, 04:45 AM

Narwhal's (soon-to-be) New 6 incher!

Hitman · 06-28-09, 05:19 AM

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I think someone ought to make RL type missions for the Narwhal, a kindo dedicated campaign in a way

Leave that to me, I already announced some posts ago that I will be doing a realistic single mission at least for each of the boats in the class, Argonaut, Narwhal and Nautilus. One of them even sunk a japanese light cruiser and another sunk a destroyer IIRC!

As for campaign, Trigger Maru, Real Fleet Boat and RSRD already include specific campaigns for the V-Boats as choosable class. So I would simply ensure that the Narwhal in this mod matches the names and overwrites the files in the TM/RFB/RSRD (Which use all of them the Pseudo-Narwhal created by Ducimus), allowing the user to enable the mod and overwrite the old one with the new, better looking model.

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Leave that to me, I already announced some posts ago that I will be doing a realistic single mission at least for each of the boats in the class, Argonaut, Narwhal and Nautilus. One of them even sunk a japanese light cruiser and another sunk a destroyer IIRC!

As for campaign, Trigger Maru, Real Fleet Boat and RSRD already include specific campaigns for the V-Boats as choosable class. So I would simply ensure that the Narwhal in this mod matches the names and overwrites the files in the TM/RFB/RSRD (Which use all of them the Pseudo-Narwhal created by Ducimus), allowing the user to enable the mod and overwrite the old one with the new, better looking model.

excellent !

keltos

spike12 · 06-28-09, 08:55 AM

Love how the boat's coming along.

So I have one question;When it's reseased, will it overwrite the psuedo-narwal in TMO?

Hitman · 06-28-09, 12:20 PM

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will it overwrite the psuedo-narwal in TMO?

That's the idea basically. Since all mods that have incorporated a pseudo-Narwhal are using it, it will therefor work with all of them. Creating a new unit that duplicates the entries in the ship's roster would be nonesense.

I can give a look to the campaign files and see if it is easy to add the Narwhal as start boat from some bases, but then again since the player would get assignements that are good for normal fleet boats I'm not sure if that would make an appropiate campaign with a V-Boat. Or may be yes, since the stock game seems to have a preference for special missions -which is basically what the V-Boats did from 1943 onwards-

keltos01 · 06-28-09, 02:27 PM

more pictures from the Navy :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 06-28-09, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

since the stock game seems to have a preference for special missions -which is basically what the V-Boats did from 1943 onwards-

I believe RSRDC has more supply missions qeued for the Narwhal class.

But Keltos, I am not on my PC, but the AO map is close but no cigar, I had a huge red stripe about the center of the boat, under the gundeck.

keltos01 · 06-29-09, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

I believe RSRDC has more supply missions qeued for the Narwhal class.

But Keltos, I am not on my PC, but the AO map is close but no cigar, I had a huge red stripe about the center of the boat, under the gundeck.

I am redoing it now, the computer will compute on its own for a few hours... hopefully this time it'll work, else I'll have to rework the UV map, which I already did a little bit before this one try.

keltos

keltos01 · 06-29-09, 01:33 AM

Could we make a skin like this :

with the name on the side of the bow ?

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 06-29-09, 01:35 AM

kay, I also edited the model, so the gundeck is flush with the hull, if you haven't done that already

and as for the AO map, get it over to me right away, i think the problem was with the faces, there were about 6 polys sitting in between the waterline parts and the black parts, but the tower was perfect!

EDIT, since I am going to try to make a custom V-Boat set anyways, I will talk to digital trucker to find out how he keeps the killflags from being reversed, that way we can have the name and number on the hull and the tower respectively
DOUBLEEDIT, if i send you the gun files, can you get them to work properly? I have the models loaded into a seperate .dat so they can be used in game, but I'm hoping you can make the final touches

keltos01 · 06-29-09, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

kay, I also edited the model, so the gundeck is flush with the hull, if you haven't done that already

and as for the AO map, get it over to me right away, i think the problem was with the faces, there were about 6 polys sitting in between the waterline parts and the black parts, but the tower was perfect!
tower has its own AO map
EDIT, since I am going to try to make a custom V-Boat set anyways, I will talk to digital trucker to find out how he keeps the killflags from being reversed, that way we can have the name and number on the hull and the tower respectively
add two squares, one on either side of the tower that come added as details nodes in s3d, so no need to redo the model, and add texture there. they need to be an exact copy of the place they go to though I think
DOUBLEEDIT, if i send you the gun files, can you get them to work properly? I have the models loaded into a seperate .dat so they can be used in game, but I'm hoping you can make the final touches

Peabody did my Jyunsen 1M double guns... but for the 3d

K

06-28-09, 03:30 AM	#123
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	missions As we do for the IJN campaign, I think someone ought to make RL type missions for the Narwhal, a kindo dedicated campaign in a way (since you all so love that sub ) here is the log that can help with that : http://www.earth2.net/usnavy/ss167/ss167_05.php RL patrols ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-28-09, 03:45 AM	#124
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	on ebay found the blueprints and other stuff : keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-28-09, 04:45 AM	#125
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	Narwhal's (soon-to-be) New 6 incher! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

06-28-09, 02:27 PM	#130
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	more pictures from the Navy : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167a.htm keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 06-28-09 at 03:31 PM.

06-29-09, 01:33 AM	#133
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Narwhal... Could we make a skin like this : with the name on the side of the bow ? keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-28-09, 08:55 AM	#128
spike12 Gunner Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 98 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	Love how the boat's coming along. So I have one question;When it's reseased, will it overwrite the psuedo-narwal in TMO?

06-29-09, 01:35 AM	#134
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	kay, I also edited the model, so the gundeck is flush with the hull, if you haven't done that already and as for the AO map, get it over to me right away, i think the problem was with the faces, there were about 6 polys sitting in between the waterline parts and the black parts, but the tower was perfect! EDIT, since I am going to try to make a custom V-Boat set anyways, I will talk to digital trucker to find out how he keeps the killflags from being reversed, that way we can have the name and number on the hull and the tower respectively DOUBLEEDIT, if i send you the gun files, can you get them to work properly? I have the models loaded into a seperate .dat so they can be used in game, but I'm hoping you can make the final touches __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!