Subsim Narwhal Contest - Mod is now available, see post #662

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Hitman

What AVG said , but I think you already have that inverted cone shape (It should be a cylinder, with a vertical wall, and not a cone but OK). It's probably the hull wall what is not properly curving inwards, not the gun platform.

You also need to stretch the gun platform outwards so that it is as wide as the deck and gets in line with the hull, as I pointed out in earlier messages

Cone or cylinder, either way, pull out that part I have in red line to complete the look. Good to go! Really, you guys are on the right track!

Now, were are probably driving them up a wall....I'm just going to run the other way and come back later for a look-see.

[Karle94]

Hope this picture will help

I tried to do a better image of the Hull sections.
But I'm no good with graphic stuff.
But the Hull section in the lower left corner may help.
Nice job so far Guys!

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by privateer

I tried to do a better image of the Hull sections.
But I'm no good with graphic stuff.
But the Hull section in the lower left corner may help.
Nice job so far Guys!

I modified the guns platform shapes again :



is this a real life blueprint of USS Narwhal ?

if so, my mistake and the guns platforms should be circular..

any intel ?

do you have this at a higher resolution ?

keltos

I'm not sure how accurate the deck area is.
And if I had a higher resolution?
I'd give it to you in a heart beat!

It's located at
http://www.seajunk.com/nautical-antiques.htm

I tried several ways to increase it's size but it gets pixelated.
And I'm not good at graphs stuff sorry to say.

Wish I could offer something better.

I also found this print on E-Bay.
Not sure what they want for it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Post #90 is the 1939 verision and you can see the stern platform is round and the bow platform is a bit angular. Not a whole heck of a lot though. As far as I know that blue print is a copy from the real thing. At this point and the information we can provide and obtain, some liberal artistic license might be in order.

[Sledgehammer427]

I think the NArwhal had the rakish bow as seen tn the 1939 configuration

[keltos01]

then is the last image I posted alright as it is for now ? till more pictures/intel available ?

keltos

[Hitman]

Couldn't you make a try with vertical platform sides? The cone shaped ones are better in this last render, but still not true to the original. Also, you still seem to have a small gape between platform and hull in the conning tower area.

some liberal artistic license might be in order

Yeah, I agree, make it look as good as possible, the milimetric exactitude is probably impossible with the materials we have, so a closer look to reality will be obtained with a "wild ass guess"

[keltos01]

obviously she need a better AO map, cause of that my textures don't really show up...

floating guns because I lowered the guns platforms a bit.

but getting there alright !

keltos

[ivank]

Will she have the 6in guns like in RL?
Cause I hate the 5in guns for the Fleet Boats

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by ivank

Will she have the 6in guns like in RL?
Cause I hate the 5in guns for the Fleet Boats

When we made the IJN 5.5 inch guns, Peabody told me there wasn't much damage difference between the 3 types of shells : 4.7, 5.0, 5.5 inch.

and if I remember correctly, the 6 inch fires the 5 inch shell in game ?!

And it would mean getting the gun's blueprints too. I made the IJN model from submarine blueprints (for size and shape) and photographs from many angles to be accurate, but it was as long as making a whole sub...

And then again it was just an empty shell untill Peabody made the gun files.

so no, for now I don't intend to mod the guns, she already has twin guns thanks to SLedgehammer427.

keltos

[Sledgehammer427]

so flattering keltos!

I noticed that, as part of the surface warfare mod team, that there is a set of guns that look relatively close (in size and shape) to the pictures i have seen of the Narwhal's guns.

I will dig them up, so maybe it won't be so much work

[Hitman]

A little suggestion: The main visual difference between the 5 inch guns already in the game, and the real 6 inch guns is mainly the size. Couldn't you simply resize the existing 5 inch guns to "beef up" their look? That would be a two minutes job with any decent 3D editor.

[Sledgehammer427]

IMO the 4-inchers look more suitable for upsizing, the 5-inch has a lifting breech, like an artillery peice (essentially what it is)
but the 6-inchers had plug breeches, which fit right into the barrel, like a battleship's guns.
the 4-inchers have this same look, and it wouldnt take me long to work a 6-incher out of one