U-BOOT_HAHD Official Thread

[Jimbuna]

I should not be receiving reported posts on Boxing Day/the season of goodwill.

Stay classy everyone...TIA.

[barel80]

Is it possible to create super-team of subsim modders and make a better version of GWX ? With all SH3 limitations, just campaign with new widescreen graphics, GUI and ships... There were many good things, that shouldn't be changed. Just some kind of refreshed GWX.
Atlantic Warfare grows very slow with no info from producer's team. I don't know
when/if it will be finished.
I would support their work with any money, if they show something new about ATWAR, to prove the work is in progress. But for a while, maybe smaller project, new GWX ?

Sorry for my English.
Merry Christmas to All .

[Anvart]

Originally Posted by desertstriker

Anvart I think there was just a misunderstanding.

Maybe... but I'm not sure.

I sevearly doubt this is the case, HAHD was a good project in theory but (coming from the guy who spent 12 hours going though for hans so he could edit the original post) game limitations from the aged SH3 game engine where bound to come up I am sure GWX and any mega mods was forced to deal with the game engine limitation.

Obvious things are understood by all, I think.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I should not be receiving reported posts on Boxing Day/the season of goodwill.
Stay classy everyone...TIA.

Excuse, just don't read posts...

Originally Posted by barel80

Is it possible to create super-team of subsim modders ...

This is utopia.

[desertstriker]

Originally Posted by barel80

Is it possible to create super-team of subsim modders and make a better version of GWX ? With all SH3 limitations, just campaign with new widescreen graphics, GUI and ships... There were many good things, that shouldn't be changed. Just some kind of refreshed GWX.
Atlantic Warfare grows very slow with no info from producer's team. I don't know
when/if it will be finished.
I would support their work with any money, if they show something new about ATWAR, to prove the work is in progress. But for a while, maybe smaller project, new GWX ?

Sorry for my English.
Merry Christmas to All .

Trust me we are all working hard at ATWAR. We should have the website up in January and then the kickstart should go live shortly after. Not sure if you popped over to the ATWAR subforum here on subsim but we will be realeasing a magazine as part of our fundraiser that will have some stuff on what we are doing. As long as the community comes through I don't think many will be disappointed.

[Wise]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Say what? Hans Witteman and the HAHD team have given you (and me and everyone) everything we've paid for. If you have been harmed in some way by Hans, or deprived of something of real value, please come forward and tell us how and what. If not, why are you criticizing a total stranger who has done nothing to injure you?

Yes, what about it? Have you ever, in your life, started a project and not finished it? Do you have any work, in any area of your life, just sitting there waiting to be finished - on that future day when real life relents and gives you the time? If you don't, then you are certainly better than the rest of us mortals. Good for you. But please have some tolerance for those of us who fail to live up to your standards.

I didn't hear any laughter. Did you hear any laughter? Will you please quote the post where Hans laughs at anyone?

"demagogue: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power."

Doesn't seem that definition really fits Hans. While he may have arguably made promises he couldn't keep (see above before criticizing), he has not used them to gain power or money or anything else for himself. At best, he got a few strokes from people who liked what he was trying to do and praised him for the effort. Is that what you begrudge him?

Hans Witteman had an idea that may have been bigger than he could execute. He rallied some likeminded folks to his support and they tried to make it work. For now, he has gone in a different direction - although he may return and try to finish this project. Would you prefer that he hadn't tried? Do you seek to discourage others from trying in the future, lest they also fail and receive your scorn? The easiest way to avoid failure is to never even try. I can say that I never failed to produce a megamod, but, since I've never tried, that is a sham boast. As Gretsky said: "I never scored with a shot I didn't take."

Wordplay… Beautifully, but nothing constructive.
"demagogue: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power." Blah.
Demagoguery - it is simple set oratorical and polemical methods and means to introduce the audience astray. She can chase any target.
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@Anvart, I see, the word "modesty" ,is not about you.)) Usually, people can prattle only in a lobby. And publicly deceitfully to flatter. And only few are capable to state all truth directly in eyes. As a whole, I am not the supporter of it. Often it happens incorrectly. But when many nuances of doubtful cause are too obvious, and disagree with any logic, such position indisputable it is worthy respect. That you here told, I agree with you, but your opinion I publicly never would' support,if you weren't attacked by windbags.
Here I with you.

[Anvart]

Hi, Wise.

I see you still are offended by me.
The task of the modders not just make a mod but do it properly, without detriment to functionality of the game... no "trash style" my credo. In such cases... yes, the word "modesty" do not fit for me.
And about you - "Чья бы корова мычала..." - такого вспыльчивого и не сдержанного как ты "ещё надо поискать".

Regards, Alex

[barel80]

Fine, please give a sign, when ATWAR is on Kickstarter. Then i will support it.
I'm interested in combat sim, not in magazines. It would be great to go for a patrol once more...

[Wise]

Anvart! I have long ago not offended, I told absolutely about other..)) Apparently, your translator introduced you astray. Have to be duplicated in Russian:
Я вижу, слово "скромность", не о тебе)). Обычно, люди могут болтать только в кулуарах. И публично лживо льстить. И только немногие способны заявить всю правду прямо в глаза. В целом, я не сторонник этого. Часто это происходит неправильно. Но когда много нюансов сомнительного дела слишком очевидны, и вразрез с любой логикой, такая позиция,бесспорно,достойна уважения. То, что ты здесь сказал, я с тобой согласен абсолютно, но твоё мнение я публично (т.е. здесь) никогда не поддержал бы, если бы ты не был атакован болтунами. Здесь я с тобой.
Про «корову» тоже не обижаюсь. Но замечу,что я высказывал своё мнение о моде ханда на Сухом.ру.,т.е. в «кулуарах».)) А ты влепил здесь,т.е. прямо в лоб.)) Вот и говорю,что иногда это неправильно,но наверно,не в этом случае. Прими моё уважение. Несмотря даже на «мусор». Надеюсь,теперь ты понял,об чём я вёл речь утром..

[Hans Witteman]

Originally Posted by barel80

Fine, please give a sign, when ATWAR is on Kickstarter. Then i will support it.
I'm interested in combat sim, not in magazines. It would be great to go for a patrol once more...

Hi barel,

Thank for offering your support for ATWAR but the magazine serve 2 purpose, first it could generate funding for ATWAR without asking people to pledge money on imaginary virtual package like i see so often on other game funding by crowd project, the second is to make a unique magazine that will offer a new and modern way to present history and this could even become a successful project in itself and become a source of income that can assure the future for ATWAR.

We will have a kickstarter funding but the Sim and specially naval Sim are a dying breed and we don't want to rely solely on this since the most successful crowd funding project were all done on their own website and a small part on kickstarter .

Regards Hans

[barel80]

Thanks for reply, Hans.
I think, that your project should have strong PR on Subsim, YouTube and on its own site (atlanticwarfare.com ?). I also think, that it will be good to publicate fruits of Your work often (screens, info what is done and what will be done in near future). This will cut off any speculations about death of Your project and give You many fans who will be waiting for release and potencially donate it.
Just look at the number of registered Subsim users, many of them will be very interested and look forward for Your final project.
I wish You nice and succesfull work !
Can't wait to see some new info about Atlantic Warfare .

[Anvart]

Originally Posted by Wise

Anvart! I have long ago not offended, ... Прими моё уважение. ...

Hi, Wise.
Дорогой мой и уважаемый соотечественник...
Во первых я абсолютно точно понял то , что ты написал на иноверном... . Особенно мне понравилась абсолютная точность твоего определения "демагогии" к контексту моего прошлого поста... интерпретация этого термина со временем действительно стала зависеть от контекста ситуации в которой он применяется.
Моё мнения о не остывшей обиде по поводу реплики об "ошибках начинающего модера" остаётся незыблемым... Когда я писал это (в недалёком прошлом) я имел ввиду не тебя... а известную нам персону... но после твоего (про)странного поста я понял, что ты тут ручку тоже приложил... и естественно продемонстрировал скринами своё недоумение... если бы ты не написал тот пост никаких картинок естественно не было бы...
Далее... ты наверно плохо знаешь мою историю на сабсиме... я всегда, когда не было лень, пытался объяснить читателям форума ошибочность концепсии того или иного мода... если говорить просто, то о "надувательстве" пользователей сабсима (также "trash style", который ты почему то принял за "мусор"?... если сказать попросту этот стиль предпочитает быстроту, количество в ущерб качеству... естественно в контексте моего поста)... за что нахожусь в не милости у тупоголовых модеров и некоторых невежественных модераторов... и твои слова о "скромности", "смелости" в данной ситуации просто неуместны, I think. Кроме того имеет место и обычная спесь иноверцев по отношению к Русским.
Выступление на форуме это не кулуарная беседа, а публичная... для кулуарного "трёпа" существуют PM and e-mail... и когда я говорил о мнении некоторых пользователей сухого я имел ввиду не только тебя .
Про "мусор" сказал, про "корову"... я, как предполагаемый демагог, прекрасно понимаю как воздействуют такого рода поговорки на русского человека... когда ты хочешь синкопировать, акцентировать какую либо мысль, лучшего приёма, наверно, не найти... (шутка).
И пожалуй достаточно заниматься словоблудием...
Поздравляю вас Wise и других читателей с наступающим Новым Годом.
Желаю здоровья и всего наилучшего.

Hans, moderators, excuse for off topic.

Happy new Year!

Regards, Alex.

[Hans Witteman]

Hi Alex,

For myself i am still your friend if you want and i wish you a happy new year and specially a good health and a successful year.
Regards Hans

[Anvart]

Hi, Hans.
I am glad that the different views on some of the stuff does not prevent remain friends to us, my respected friend.
Happy New Year, I wish you good health and long life to you and your family.

Regards, Alex.

[Ignaz Woll]

It looks amazing! Keep up with the great work Hans!

[Fubar2Niner]

Originally Posted by BL!TZKR!EG

Which work?

This thread is called "U-BOOT_HAHD Official Thread" and there is no work on this anymore.

This thread should be made UNsticky !

All the best, Hans & team.

As much as I hate to say this, he does have a point