Building a new rig. - Page 2

Jimbuna · 01-30-14, 01:03 PM

Me too but if I'm to be honest I go to a friends computer shop and have them build one to roughly the specs I ask for without being overly detailed.

Arclight · 02-02-14, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

Are you talking nVidias??

Er, where?

02-02-14, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

Imho the graphics card story is a bit tricky at the moment. AMD came up with their Mantle thingy, which could make AMD the preferred camp for any game that supports Mantle. Questions at this point are "is Mantle really that great?" and whether or not developers will support it in future games.

AMD is claiming a 45% improvement in Battlefield 4. Hard to really verify anything at this point, but promising enough to not dismiss hastily.

Apart from that, have a look at the 200,- to 250,- segment. Think you'd be pretty happy with a card like that.

I just saw the 3 digits and always think of nVidias. Lol

02-02-14, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

2000 dollars? I spend 800 Euros three years ago, and the system still can handle all and everything I throw at it.

Just do not buy the latest, the newest, the most recent. That stuff, especially CPUs and graphics boards, is hopelessly overpriced.

Look out for for example a GPU card generation that is one generation behind the current market top leaders. You get maybe 5% more performance with that best of the best. And pay twice as much money. Never forget to consider the bang-for-the-buck ratio. Else you get eaten alive by those shops.

I would check a solid i5 or i7 (try to find an i5 that almost reaches the performance of the more expensive i7, at least three years ago some i5's where not inferior to i7's in gaming purposes, it depends, of course), a solid mainboard of good reputation, a good nVidia GTX 660. Windows 7 x64, 8 GB RAM or more.

And get a good PSU, quality here pays off. Many people underestimate the importance of good PSUs.

You will cry less when buying not the most expensive, because PC tech incredibly fast looses its monetarian value.

Meh, I mean 2000 was a a rough number I threw out there.

I could go for 1200-1500 if I could get something real quality built.

Skybird · 02-02-14, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

I could go for 1200-1500 if I could get something real quality built.

That sounds realistic to me. Currently, 1000 Euros are 1350 Dollar. You probably can safely aim for the lower mark in your price span.

Also note that gfx cards tend to have a limited lifespan, no device in my PCs have technically failed me more often, and broke down after 2-3 years. Another argument why one must not want too too high with the price mark there. They simply wore out.

If its in the budget, consider a second drive: a SSD either for Windows and system alone, or FSX alone. 64 GB for FSX, 128 for Windows would be sufficient.

Red Devil · 02-02-14, 10:18 AM

I always used to build my own from late 90s, to 2 years ago. Then bought one off shelf and will never build my own again. Support is there if needed, which, of course, is not available if self built.

Skybird · 02-02-14, 06:02 PM

It pays off to have a local shop of trust where you go and tell them about your idea for components and if they have any technical recommendation or objections, then ask them to put the stuff you have chosen together for you. That's how I do it. In case of problems, I can ask them and always go back there. That they also have fair, even cheap prices, I do not complain about.

But d09jn g some internet research on choosen items and what customers say about these, is a must, I would say. Never blindly trust any salesman - NEVER.

ReallyDedPoet · 02-02-14, 07:20 PM

I have thought about building my own rig a few times, and have installed various components through the years, but I would still opt for a pro to do a complete build.

Red Devil · 02-03-14, 05:11 AM

I do my own upgrades eg: new cards etc. The problem with 'puters' is the same as all electronics, take it home, its obselete. within the next 5-7 years we will have graphene screens and hardware - look it up in google, amazing stuff. Tougher that steel. I can see 'towers' going down to the size of a hard drive!!

tater · 03-05-14, 01:58 PM

I'm in the market for a new rig as well. Maybe it will get me back to modding (though I now have an ulterior motive that involves black powder, not torpedoes

, and requires DX11, and just "more horsepower").

I have a P180 case already (which should take any ATX board I think), and presumably I can reuse my current HD as a secondary drive.

Any specific suggestions for vid card, CPU? Was thiking maybe an i5, looks like cpu/mobo for a little over $300. Then a middle of the road vid card (since high-end is out of date by the time you open the box, anyway).

Arclight · 03-05-14, 05:24 PM

Mm maybe 2500k or newer Ivy Bridge equivalent, and a GTX660. T'is what i've got so easy suggestion off the top of my head. $400 to $450 I'd guess.

tater · 03-06-14, 06:23 PM

I was looking at a 3350, seems a fair bang for the buck.

Arclight · 03-06-14, 07:46 PM

That works, I think. Seems it would only miss the on-die GPU, which is rather useless beyond an emergency backup anyway.

Get a new CPU like that nowadays and you're set for a while. Bit of overkill for current gaming unless you run enthusiast card or SLI/Crossfire. Or run into that occasional CPU-intensive game that can really only use 1 core.

01-30-14, 01:03 PM	#16
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Me too but if I'm to be honest I go to a friends computer shop and have them build one to roughly the specs I ask for without being overly detailed. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

02-02-14, 10:18 AM	#21
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I always used to build my own from late 90s, to 2 years ago. Then bought one off shelf and will never build my own again. Support is there if needed, which, of course, is not available if self built. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-02-14, 06:02 PM	#22
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,570 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	It pays off to have a local shop of trust where you go and tell them about your idea for components and if they have any technical recommendation or objections, then ask them to put the stuff you have chosen together for you. That's how I do it. In case of problems, I can ask them and always go back there. That they also have fair, even cheap prices, I do not complain about. But d09jn g some internet research on choosen items and what customers say about these, is a must, I would say. Never blindly trust any salesman - NEVER. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-02-14, 07:20 PM	#23
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Building a new rig. I have thought about building my own rig a few times, and have installed various components through the years, but I would still opt for a pro to do a complete build. __________________ Back in the Day

02-03-14, 05:11 AM	#24
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I do my own upgrades eg: new cards etc. The problem with 'puters' is the same as all electronics, take it home, its obselete. within the next 5-7 years we will have graphene screens and hardware - look it up in google, amazing stuff. Tougher that steel. I can see 'towers' going down to the size of a hard drive!! __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

03-05-14, 01:58 PM	#25
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'm in the market for a new rig as well. Maybe it will get me back to modding (though I now have an ulterior motive that involves black powder, not torpedoes , and requires DX11, and just "more horsepower"). I have a P180 case already (which should take any ATX board I think), and presumably I can reuse my current HD as a secondary drive. Any specific suggestions for vid card, CPU? Was thiking maybe an i5, looks like cpu/mobo for a little over $300. Then a middle of the road vid card (since high-end is out of date by the time you open the box, anyway). __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

03-05-14, 05:24 PM	#26
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Mm maybe 2500k or newer Ivy Bridge equivalent, and a GTX660. T'is what i've got so easy suggestion off the top of my head. $400 to $450 I'd guess. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-06-14, 06:23 PM	#27
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I was looking at a 3350, seems a fair bang for the buck. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

03-06-14, 07:46 PM	#28
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	That works, I think. Seems it would only miss the on-die GPU, which is rather useless beyond an emergency backup anyway. Get a new CPU like that nowadays and you're set for a while. Bit of overkill for current gaming unless you run enthusiast card or SLI/Crossfire. Or run into that occasional CPU-intensive game that can really only use 1 core. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.