Britain to sail submarine-hunting warship through disputed South China Sea next month

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I have overwhelming doubts that you can protect you interests at sea with such s small navy, small in numbers. The British navy is not the British navy anymore. Also, if things go tough, such a small force will find it incredibly hard to digest even the smallest of small losses.

We. Need. More. Platforms.

They can still rattle your cage ... the British budget for the Royal Navy is to protect Great Britain not China.

As for these disputed islands in the sea, that the Philippines and even Vietnam have claimed as their sovereign area,
are being claimed by China have a more important value to them than the obvious one.

These islands could be used for Chinese submarines to surface in and resupply themselves with weapons and food in a time of world conflict.

They don't think we would target such a little island with a nuclear weapon.

Notice how upset they get when our oceanography ships get too close and now GB is sending a ASW ship to challenge their claim.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

the British budget for the Royal Navy is to protect Great Britain not China.

Pardon...?

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Pardon...?

You don't understand budget of China vs budget of GB?

Sorry I wasn't clear enough ... yet GB has a better nuclear submarine force than China along with larger, newer and better aircraft carrier's.

They have enough force to protect themselves along with the USN as an friend for life.

[Skybird]

Eh - helphelp!

Why would the British navy wish to protect China?

Lost in translation, sorry. I dont get what you mean with the original sentence.

And sorry again - but the British aircraft carriers currently do not impress me one bit. No aircraft, you see. And I wonder whether the RN have enough fleet and personnel left to even just escort them.

Finally, its not as if the Chinese navy and air force stink anymore. Actually they already are quite impressive. Maybe not yet on same quality level as American and British equivalents if setting them up one versus one, but nothing to just mock about. Especially when considering their numbers, and comfortable logistics. Its said that ammunition gets spend at insane speed in naval engagements.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Eh - helphelp!

Why would the British navy wish to protect China?

Lost in translation, sorry. I dont get what you mean with the original sentence.

And sorry again - but the British aircraft carriers currently do not impress me one bit. No aircraft, you see. And I wonder whether the RN have enough fleet and personnel left to even just escort them.

Finally, its not as if the Chinese navy and air force stink anymore. Actually they already are quite impressive. Maybe not yet on same quality level as American and British equivalents if setting them up one versus one, but nothing to just mock about. Especially when considering their numbers, and comfortable logistics. Its said that ammunition gets spend at insane speed in naval engagements.

Sorry Sky ... I just didn't like you bashing GB's Royal Navy doing the best job they can under the circumstances. Arm chair admirals don't have budgets do they?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Sorry Sky ... I just didn't like you bashing GB's Royal Navy doing the best job they can under the circumstances. Arm chair admirals don't have budgets do they?

For such shortages I used tobash poltiicians, not the serving military. My often given argument is that tehcnological and trainign advanatge can only compensate so far for lacking numbers - and not more. Even a high tech ship cannot be in four different places simulatenously, and the RN sees a damn huge operation area. That they have serious crewing porblems and a shortage on both platforms and men willing to chose this way, has often been reported.

I did not bash them, Mr. Quattro. Just hinted at the obvious. They are too few. Motivation and training quality does not change this.

And I did not imply at all that the British budget for its navy is meant to defend China, i do not know why you came up with that.