I've had enough with it...

geosub1978 · 08-15-09, 08:34 AM

So here it is....

When I load the museum my monitor turns into black and after some seconds I hear a grrrrrrrr................... from my computer and the monitor displays "POWER SAVING MODE". I have to restart it through the power supply button. The same thing happens sometimes when I finish a battle in BLITZKRIEG 2 (I recently bought the ANTHOLOGY).

I believe my graphics card (ATI 4850) is broken down.

Any other thoughts please?

irish1958 · 08-15-09, 01:44 PM

I think you are right.

FIREWALL · 08-15-09, 01:52 PM

NiVidia comes to mind. Have never had a problem.

Hope I haven't jinxed me self.

CapZap1970 · 08-15-09, 02:49 PM

almost 100% sure it's the vid card... to much effort...

Wulfmann · 08-15-09, 06:33 PM

Don't start with the Nvidea crap. No offense.

Most cards are fine from either but there are a few bad ones and if that is it for you then it is bad luck no bad ATI chip.

I have had better luck with ATI than Nvidea and ATI chips have done much better for SH3 and 4 by my comparisons.

I moved the EVGA 9800GTS+ over to my email PC and put an ATI Sapphire 4830 at half the price of the 9800 and it does almost everything better.

However, I would suggest one up on either of them to be ready for GWX4 as that will likely require more juice.
The 4870 1GB comes to mind as does the Nvidea 285 both should be fine for that new mod SH4.

IMO

Wulfmann

Graf Paper · 08-16-09, 01:50 AM

The vid card might be overheating or it could be your power supply is just not adequate to handle the drain when the GPU starts eating up cycles.

It's not so much a matter of how many watts your PS claims to have. Mostly, it's making sure you have enough amps on the right voltage rail.

For example, the older ATI AGP cards required a steady 24 amps on the +12v rail. My humble 350 watt PS met that requirement and never once failed to keep things going when gaming, even though many sites recommended at least a 450 watt PS.

That "grrrrrr" noise you heard would very likely be the power supply choking on the demand the vid card is placing on it. The fact that your system is kicking into Power Saving mode at that time supports that.

That's one possible answer, given the sketchy information provided.

geosub1978 · 08-16-09, 03:43 AM

Well the sequence is this:

1. During loading the game or the museum or when a mission is finished the monitor turns into black dispalying "DIGITAL-POWER SAVING MODE". I can still hear the sound of the game at the background. The keyboard and the mouse don't respond.

2. After some seconds game's sounds stop and I hear the strange noise coming from the desktop and sometimes the monitor displays vertical magenda lines.

3. I reboot the pc from the power supply switch.

4. After reboot I notice that the "DYNAMIC ENERGY SAVER" (a GYGABITE power saving program) is disabled though it should be enabled at start up.

This things happen even when I disable the dynamic energy saver from the beginning. From a google search I realised that many people experience this during gaming and the solutions are related almost to...everything!

BTW thanks for your answers!

Cheapskate · 08-16-09, 06:21 AM

Ahaa - A Gigabyte board with DES. Your graphics card may not be at fault then. I had a graphics card fail on me once and it never once made a sound. The only thing I noticed were graphics anomalies like pixellated lines across the screen which for a while, used to correct themselves. Then one day they didn't and it was dead.

On the other hand With my Gigabyte GA-EP45-DSS board I often hear a GRRRR!!! but it isn't coming from the system...it's coming from me! Those things seem to have a mind of their own (just like all MS operating systems since 98SE).

When first installed it grabbed a large chunk of my new hard drive where it could make a backup. To this day I can't find a way of recovering the space which it purloined

It often disputes my graphics settings and initially refuses to boot. On reset, it decides that my display should be 16 bit not 32. Today it decided that the screen resolution should be 1024x768 not 1680x1050.

In many ways it is a great board. Build quality is excellent but some of the features it offers are probably best left alone particularly if you have very limited computer knowledge like me! I never did install the Energy Saving function so I haven't had any experience with that and the next time I do a system reinstall I'm going to see what other "useful" functions can be omitted!

Hopefully your problems will simply be down to an overactive motherboard system. I think that if the graphics card was on the way out you would have seen other symptoms. Overheating is probably the prime cause of Graphics card failure and that would have been evident from Catalyst Control panel ATI Overdrive panel - that is if you use CCC....or a strong smell of burning if you don't

08-15-09, 08:34 AM	#1
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	I've had enough with it... So here it is.... When I load the museum my monitor turns into black and after some seconds I hear a grrrrrrrr................... from my computer and the monitor displays "POWER SAVING MODE". I have to restart it through the power supply button. The same thing happens sometimes when I finish a battle in BLITZKRIEG 2 (I recently bought the ANTHOLOGY). I believe my graphics card (ATI 4850) is broken down. Any other thoughts please? __________________

08-15-09, 01:44 PM	#2
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I think you are right. __________________ Irish1958

08-15-09, 01:52 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	NiVidia comes to mind. Have never had a problem. Hope I haven't jinxed me self. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-15-09, 02:49 PM	#4
CapZap1970 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 51	almost 100% sure it's the vid card... to much effort... __________________

08-15-09, 06:33 PM	#5
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Don't start with the Nvidea crap. No offense. Most cards are fine from either but there are a few bad ones and if that is it for you then it is bad luck no bad ATI chip. I have had better luck with ATI than Nvidea and ATI chips have done much better for SH3 and 4 by my comparisons. I moved the EVGA 9800GTS+ over to my email PC and put an ATI Sapphire 4830 at half the price of the 9800 and it does almost everything better. However, I would suggest one up on either of them to be ready for GWX4 as that will likely require more juice. The 4870 1GB comes to mind as does the Nvidea 285 both should be fine for that new mod SH4. IMO Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

08-16-09, 01:50 AM	#6
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	The vid card might be overheating or it could be your power supply is just not adequate to handle the drain when the GPU starts eating up cycles. It's not so much a matter of how many watts your PS claims to have. Mostly, it's making sure you have enough amps on the right voltage rail. For example, the older ATI AGP cards required a steady 24 amps on the +12v rail. My humble 350 watt PS met that requirement and never once failed to keep things going when gaming, even though many sites recommended at least a 450 watt PS. That "grrrrrr" noise you heard would very likely be the power supply choking on the demand the vid card is placing on it. The fact that your system is kicking into Power Saving mode at that time supports that. That's one possible answer, given the sketchy information provided. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

08-16-09, 03:43 AM	#7
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	Well the sequence is this: 1. During loading the game or the museum or when a mission is finished the monitor turns into black dispalying "DIGITAL-POWER SAVING MODE". I can still hear the sound of the game at the background. The keyboard and the mouse don't respond. 2. After some seconds game's sounds stop and I hear the strange noise coming from the desktop and sometimes the monitor displays vertical magenda lines. 3. I reboot the pc from the power supply switch. 4. After reboot I notice that the "DYNAMIC ENERGY SAVER" (a GYGABITE power saving program) is disabled though it should be enabled at start up. This things happen even when I disable the dynamic energy saver from the beginning. From a google search I realised that many people experience this during gaming and the solutions are related almost to...everything! BTW thanks for your answers! __________________

08-16-09, 06:21 AM	#8
Cheapskate XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Darkest Essex Posts: 403 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Ahaa - A Gigabyte board with DES. Your graphics card may not be at fault then. I had a graphics card fail on me once and it never once made a sound. The only thing I noticed were graphics anomalies like pixellated lines across the screen which for a while, used to correct themselves. Then one day they didn't and it was dead. On the other hand With my Gigabyte GA-EP45-DSS board I often hear a GRRRR!!! but it isn't coming from the system...it's coming from me! Those things seem to have a mind of their own (just like all MS operating systems since 98SE). When first installed it grabbed a large chunk of my new hard drive where it could make a backup. To this day I can't find a way of recovering the space which it purloined It often disputes my graphics settings and initially refuses to boot. On reset, it decides that my display should be 16 bit not 32. Today it decided that the screen resolution should be 1024x768 not 1680x1050. In many ways it is a great board. Build quality is excellent but some of the features it offers are probably best left alone particularly if you have very limited computer knowledge like me! I never did install the Energy Saving function so I haven't had any experience with that and the next time I do a system reinstall I'm going to see what other "useful" functions can be omitted! Hopefully your problems will simply be down to an overactive motherboard system. I think that if the graphics card was on the way out you would have seen other symptoms. Overheating is probably the prime cause of Graphics card failure and that would have been evident from Catalyst Control panel ATI Overdrive panel - that is if you use CCC....or a strong smell of burning if you don't