Gulf of Oman suspected torpedo attack/escalating hostilities - Page 4

Platapus · 06-19-19, 03:56 PM

I wonder if this "striking resemblance" goes further than small and goes boom?

Jimbuna · 06-20-19, 05:12 AM

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A US military surveillance drone has been shot down by Iranian forces while flying over the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) said the drone had violated Iranian airspace. But US military said it had been over international waters.

IRGC commander-in-chief Maj-Gen Hossein Salami said the downing of the drone sent a "clear message to America" that Iran's borders were its "red line".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48700965

No doubts here then as Iran has admitted the fact.

Skybird · 06-20-19, 08:07 AM

And there fall 130-220 million dollars down from the sky.

em2nought · 06-20-19, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

And there fall 130-220 million dollars down from the sky.

It cost us more than that if they shot it down with our money which Obama handed them on his way out the door.

Catfish · 06-21-19, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The UK have stated they are firmly with the US on this issue [...]

Jimbuna · 06-21-19, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Yep, can't disagree there

Jimbuna · 06-21-19, 05:26 AM

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President Donald Trump approved retaliatory military strikes against Iran on Thursday before changing his mind, US media report.

The New York Times, citing senior White House officials, says strikes were planned against a "handful" of targets.

They say the operation was allegedly under way "in its early stages" when Mr Trump stood the US military down. The White House has so far made no comment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414

This surprises me if it is true

ikalugin · 06-21-19, 06:20 AM

Considering the underfunded state of the British armed forces I am not sure that this joke applies.

Catfish · 06-21-19, 06:29 AM

1. Was the drone over iranian territory?
2. How does international law regulate such incidents - allowed to shoot down foreign military devices over own territory?

Jimbuna · 06-21-19, 06:34 AM

^ I would imagine accurately recorded flight information will be available from both sides to back up their assertions should either feel the need to definitively show just where the drone actually was.

ikalugin · 06-21-19, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

1. Was the drone over iranian territory?
2. How does international law regulate such incidents - allowed to shoot down foreign military devices over own territory?

Apparently it was over ADIZ. Countries tend to maintain the right to engage threatening objects (ie those without working transponders) over their ADIZ. Which is why in certain regions of the world (ie near to Baltics, in Ukraine etc) USAF flies their drones with transponders on.

Yes, if it is over your own territory legally speaking you can do whatever you want with it, in fact the violation of the airspace can be claimed as an act of agression by the other party. This is why the moment USSR had proven the capability to shoot down US spy aircraft those flights stoped.

Skybird · 06-21-19, 07:46 AM

The place there is cluttered with acts of war already. The damaging of the tankers some weeks ago were acts of war. The apparent mine-attacks on tankers were acts of war. Flying a drone into another nation'S airspace is a at least an extrenely unfriendly act. Shooting down a drone in international airspace qualfiies for that at minimum as well.

We have had tanker attacks int he 80s, with Iranian missiles. Was there a discussion over whether that were acts of war?

The problem in the present is we have no evidence revealed to the public, just claims, claims, and more claims. Even the launched and interrupted American attack last night is so far just a claim. The only things we cna be sure of is that tsbkers were attacked and damaged, and a US drone got downed by Iran somewhere. Anything beyond that so far is just claim.

Deepseadiver · 06-21-19, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Rockstar · 06-21-19, 08:55 AM

Meh, we cancelled any retaliation due to the weather.

Jimbuna · 06-21-19, 09:09 AM

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Mr Trump said he had called off strikes after being told 150 people would die.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414

06-19-19, 03:56 PM	#46
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,948 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I wonder if this "striking resemblance" goes further than small and goes boom? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And there fall 130-220 million dollars down from the sky. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-21-19, 06:20 AM	#53
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Considering the underfunded state of the British armed forces I am not sure that this joke applies. __________________ Grumpy as always.

06-21-19, 06:29 AM	#54
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	1. Was the drone over iranian territory? 2. How does international law regulate such incidents - allowed to shoot down foreign military devices over own territory? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-21-19, 06:34 AM	#55
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,150 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ I would imagine accurately recorded flight information will be available from both sides to back up their assertions should either feel the need to definitively show just where the drone actually was. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-21-19, 07:46 AM	#57
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The place there is cluttered with acts of war already. The damaging of the tankers some weeks ago were acts of war. The apparent mine-attacks on tankers were acts of war. Flying a drone into another nation'S airspace is a at least an extrenely unfriendly act. Shooting down a drone in international airspace qualfiies for that at minimum as well. We have had tanker attacks int he 80s, with Iranian missiles. Was there a discussion over whether that were acts of war? The problem in the present is we have no evidence revealed to the public, just claims, claims, and more claims. Even the launched and interrupted American attack last night is so far just a claim. The only things we cna be sure of is that tsbkers were attacked and damaged, and a US drone got downed by Iran somewhere. Anything beyond that so far is just claim. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-21-19, 08:55 AM	#59
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,832 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Meh, we cancelled any retaliation due to the weather. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.