US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[vienna]

Meh, just another attempt to needlessly smear the Mayor of London by those who are trying to do damage control for the weak, pathetic Trump. As has been endlessly pointed out by those who actually heard, saw, or read the actual statement by the Mayor, he explicitly and literally told Londoners there was "no reason to be alarmed" by the increased police and/or military presence and activity in and round London, a sort of "Keep Calm And Carry On"; in no way did the Mayor's comments try to minimize or deflect concerns about terrorism...

So, which is the better situation:

1) A civic leader who does his job and seeks to reassure and pull together his city's populace, or

2) A severely weakened national 'leader' who, in his flailing attempts to justify his own failings, seeks to take a great human tragedy and turn it into political fodder for his own narrow, political and personal agenda?

Trump is rapidly becoming the first marginalized president in US history: the number of voters and citizens who are turning away from him and his administration in ever-growing numbers, now well over half of the voters; members of the Congress, of both parties, are now acting in such a way as if Trump doesn't even figure into the equations; members of his own party, if not in open rebellion, are now, increasingly, speaking and acting as if Trump doesn't even matter anymore and are just marking time until he's gone; within his own, self-selected, Cabinet and senior administration, many of them are openly contradicting Trump or acting as if what he says is of no import; the only people who do seem to care about Trump, and they are a steadily dwindling number, are the sycophants and lemmings who will follow him over he edge...





Let them follow him into the abyss: then, perhaps, sensible adults can again assume control and sanity can be restored...




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[Bilge_Rat]

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[vienna]

"...there's no success like failure
And that failure's no success at all"


Bob Dylan
Love Minus Zero / No Limit, 1965




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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Interesting article. Our internal divisions may be our societies down fall.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/05/...ing-terrorism/

For once we agree, you and me. I tried to bring home this message since quite some time. Flowers and teddybears, candles and confessions of how sad one feels, are cheap, free of effort, and mean nothing. And certainly they are not an expression of will and a display of strength. Its whistling a tune while walking in the dark forest, cluelessness in the face of being challenged, and all too often: egocentric self-display. Despicable.

I don't like crowds. And I don't like paroles appealing to the masses.

Show me people who have lost patience, who refuse to just sit down and weep and cry, who express anger and determination, and have a certain kind of toughness in their eyes, a certain expression one cannot imagine that it could exist before one has never seen it with one's own eyes in somebody else's eyes. Maybe you know what I mean. I have seen it in some foreign countries and places. But almost never is it to be seen in countries like our homes. We are too civilised.

Question is whether what we call "being civilised", indeed is what it means to be "civilised." To me, it just means to be indifferent until self-denial, nevertheless claiming the morally higher ground.

[eddie]

That's the best you got Bilge_Rat, BS about the Paris Accords!

[Bilge_Rat]

nope, got some more:

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

nope, got some more:

Oh gawd. Thank you! This post!

Trumpkins in a nut shell!

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

...Show me people who have lost patience, who refuse to just sit down and weep and cry, who express anger and determination, and have a certain kind of toughness in their eyes, a certain expression one cannot imagine that it could exist before one has never seen it with one's own eyes in

Jim brought those brrave people we seek to our attention in another topic.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

A few links that outline some of the heroicsa:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40149836

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b02478cb9c6e0e

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0c242ca24c50e

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/371828...woman-stabbed/

~SALUTE~

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Oh gawd. Thank you! This post!

Trumpkins in a nut shell!

exactly what do you mean?

Resorting to personal attacks again?

over a CARTOON!?!?!

Are you completely off your rocker?

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

exactly what do you mean?

Resorting to personal attacks again?

over a CARTOON!?!?!

Are you completely off your rocker?

Hit a nerve?
Explain to me how this is a personal attack, and I may or may not explain what exactly I meant - although I have the strong feeling I would not need to explain this to those more center, left... or reasonable conservative.

Probably fake news. Move along.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Jim brought those brrave people we seek to our attention in another topic.

Yes indeed. But that were reactions to the clear and present danger right before their eyes. Not an attitude born from reflecting over the incidents of the past years and decades. It was action without thinking. Will these same people indeed vote for stopping being politically correct regarding Islam? We don't know. I only want to illustrate that I am about something different than what they did. So wanted the author of the article that August linked. Of course I see things different when it comes to Trump'S person, than she does. Becasue I do not buy his posing. But her remarks on how it has become a habit to just silently accept terrorism as something we have no right to confront, because of precious animosities by some and political correctness of others - thats is something I also have said repeatedly by now, and linked to in one or two other, different articles.