The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar - Page 48

Catfish · 01-08-16, 06:22 PM

Sorry, it is HIMSELF in the old testament, and Jesus in the new.
Yes, he says that, even in the new one. Not in the Lutherian variant anymore though, as far as i know.

But you are evading the point

Oberon · 01-08-16, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Sorry, it is HIMSELF in the old testament, and Jesus in the new.
Yes, he says that, even in the new one. Not in the Lutherian variant anymore though, as far as i know.

But you are evading the point

I don't recall Jesus saying about killing parents, God might well have in the Old Testament, most things that stood still for long enough got smited for some reason in the Old Testament, but I see what you mean about giving up, in Luke 18:29, although IIRC it came at the end of a sermon about materialism and how hard it was for the rich to enter the kingdom of God.

Yeah, though, the short and the long of it is, like you say, most people with half a brain cell interpret the Bible in their own manner. In fact, I think everyone interprets it in their own way, the same as with any holy scripture, or indeed, any scripture at all.

It's what you take away from it.

mapuc · 01-08-16, 06:34 PM

Going to be a little off topic

I have since decade back been fascinated by the bible and especially The life of Jesus-officials knowings and un-officials

It has been a while since I last read part of the bible or books related to the bible and I can't remember have read things like that.

Back to topic

Markus

vienna · 01-08-16, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

...most things that stood still for long enough got smited for some reason in the Old Testament...

Well, it was either smited or begat...

<O>

Oberon · 01-08-16, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Going to be a little off topic

I have since decade back been fascinated by the bible and especially The life of Jesus-officials knowings and un-officials

It has been a while since I last read part of the bible or books related to the bible and I can't remember have read things like that.

Back to topic

Markus

I think what Catfish refers to is "The Rich Young Ruler" which is Luke:18:18-30. There's also Luke 14:25-33 which is "The Cost of following Jesus".
When you consider that, at the time, Jesus was seen as a radical preacher and his 'cult' was a dangerous thing, it's probably fairly sound advice to give his disciplines because by following him, by joining his 'cult', they would stand to lose everything, including their lives. So in essence they have to decide if it's worth it to them to make that sacrifice, to put everything else aside in their devotion to God in the hope that their sacrifices will be rewarded in the after life.
I must admit, it's a bit carrot and stick for me, "If you do this, we promise you this." but who can say what Jesus said at the time compared to what has been written and altered in this book over the millennia that it's been in circulation.

Skybird · 01-12-16, 11:16 AM

Ouch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35290760

Catfish · 01-12-16, 12:14 PM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35290760

The only thing that astonishes me is, that Erdoghan does not says it was the Kurds, or the Armenians. After all, he and his family earn a lot of money with edit: buying (thanks S) oil from DAESH.

Schroeder · 01-12-16, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

The only thing that astonishes me is, that Erdoghan does not says it was the Kurds, or the Armenians. After all, he and his family earn a lot of money with selling oil to DAESH.

Actually they are accused of taking oil from DAESH not selling to but still.

I find it funny that most victims were Germans...and that they already know who the dude was....

I really have to watch out to not become one of those conspiracy theorists but with the current government in Turkey I wouldn't be surprised by anything.

Catfish · 01-12-16, 01:09 PM

"When a pig mounts the throne, it will not just become a Sultan.
But the palace becomes a pigsty."

Schroeder · 01-12-16, 02:32 PM

On the other hand tourists from Germany contribute a big part of their income from tourism so I guess it's not that likely that it's an inside job.

Oberon · 01-12-16, 04:30 PM

Iran has two US Navy 'boats' and their crew. The Pentagon says that it hopes that Iran will return them promptly. No word on what type of vessels these are, but if it's anything like last time, probably RHIBs, I doubt the Iranian navy has the firepower to detain anything larger.

Jimbuna · 01-12-16, 04:39 PM

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Iran has assured the US that the sailors and two small vessels would be returned promptly,

I should think they would otherwise the potential consequences could be majorly problematic for them.

mapuc · 01-12-16, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I should think they would otherwise the potential consequences could be majorly problematic for them.

According to the Swedish news paper aftonbladet.se

The Iranian promised to release the boats. The latest is that Iranian soldiers has taken 10 American sailor into custody.

Markus

ivanov.ruslan · 01-12-16, 05:50 PM

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CatfishМ: Erdoghan does not says it was the Kurds

A little while ago I heard on the news that was not PKK

Strangely

Jimbuna · 01-12-16, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Iran has two US Navy 'boats' and their crew. The Pentagon says that it hopes that Iran will return them promptly. No word on what type of vessels these are, but if it's anything like last time, probably RHIBs, I doubt the Iranian navy has the firepower to detain anything larger.

Apparently, at least one of the boats run aground.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"When a pig mounts the throne, it will not just become a Sultan. But the palace becomes a pigsty." __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	On the other hand tourists from Germany contribute a big part of their income from tourism so I guess it's not that likely that it's an inside job. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

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mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,891 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Going to be a little off topic I have since decade back been fascinated by the bible and especially The life of Jesus-officials knowings and un-officials It has been a while since I last read part of the bible or books related to the bible and I can't remember have read things like that. Back to topic Markus

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Iran has two US Navy 'boats' and their crew. The Pentagon says that it hopes that Iran will return them promptly. No word on what type of vessels these are, but if it's anything like last time, probably RHIBs, I doubt the Iranian navy has the firepower to detain anything larger.