Subsims, eh?

nsomnia · 01-19-15, 09:28 PM

Ive been watching WOTA, hes making it using the Unity engine (The Forest, Spintires, Construction Simulator 2015) and I too have been attempting making a sub simulator. I have a beautiful AAA quality water system with a perfect buoyency model, kelvin form wakes, prop backwash physics and effects, weather system, day night cycle, underwater god rays to a certain depth, realistic wave splash and a beautiful exterior model of a type VII. But coding the boat physics, let alone underwater physics. Makes my head hurt too much and seeing WOTA get further and further has made me leave it.

v-i-c- · 01-19-15, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nsomnia

I have a beautiful AAA quality water system with a perfect buoyency model, kelvin form wakes, prop backwash physics and effects, weather system, day night cycle, underwater god rays to a certain depth, realistic wave splash

Sounds like you bought Frank Kane's Triton.

nsomnia · 01-19-15, 10:02 PM

I wish, what a joke that asset is, its about as realistic as SH4 in terms of fluid dynamics. I played with the demo, and its not worth 450$ (and I was able to get around the time limit somehow by entering a random string and a random number into the name and serial number... weird.) I think their studio has sold something like 17 units on the asset store I heard somewhere? Plus its coded in c++ with a wrapper library into Unity. I've contacted Frank too and he sounded very arrogant since I wasn't, quote, "seriously interested in a purchase".

I am intersted to see where their updates go... but they SunDog is spending time doing Oculus development instead of fluid simulation.

I have soo many projects laying around half done (local group of C# coders and Unity/Blender/Max users.) I could call this a "Yacht Simulator" at this point haha. Underwater fluid simulation, and even surface, is even harder than Flight Sim work. Do it well however and it sticks around,look how dedicated people are to IL-2 what is it 11 years old now?

When Unity 5 comes out I may put some more hours into it the GI may make the graphics part easier but like you stated its a LOT of man hours for a small team and I wish you had the funding/team size to take WOTA further, I know how hard game design is when you/your team all has to be generalists.

Im curious is it JUST you, 5 years of work later, or a team? I havnt read your whole thread on the Unity forums just glanced through. But all I know is you are worlds ahead of anyone else in a 'modern' subsim. OR naval sim for that matter.

I recently got into Unreal 4. Wow if I had only learned c++ instead of c#.

PS your water shader system is beautiful considering its a mobile build and when I see things like your stormy weather scenes it makes me go 'Blah go work on something else'. Props. Also you do alot of sound work correct? Very curious to see how it will sound on a PC system with a pro sound guy(s).

Will post some pics of my models at some point. 3D modelling is my specialty.
If you need any blueprints let me know I have prints of everything on a type 7. Hundreds of them at hi-res. Down to the windlass gearing.

I count nearly 80 float variables just to calculate drag. You sir are simulating to the max. Viscosity, shaft efficiency, prop size, prop pitch... wow.

CybrSlydr · 01-21-15, 11:58 PM

Truly impressive stuff!!! Anxious to see the PC release as well!

Aktungbby · 01-22-15, 12:06 AM

nsomnia!

Jimbuna · 01-22-15, 06:16 AM

Welcome to SubSim nsomnia

01-19-15, 10:02 PM	#3
nsomnia Weps Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 370 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I wish, what a joke that asset is, its about as realistic as SH4 in terms of fluid dynamics. I played with the demo, and its not worth 450$ (and I was able to get around the time limit somehow by entering a random string and a random number into the name and serial number... weird.) I think their studio has sold something like 17 units on the asset store I heard somewhere? Plus its coded in c++ with a wrapper library into Unity. I've contacted Frank too and he sounded very arrogant since I wasn't, quote, "seriously interested in a purchase". I am intersted to see where their updates go... but they SunDog is spending time doing Oculus development instead of fluid simulation. I have soo many projects laying around half done (local group of C# coders and Unity/Blender/Max users.) I could call this a "Yacht Simulator" at this point haha. Underwater fluid simulation, and even surface, is even harder than Flight Sim work. Do it well however and it sticks around,look how dedicated people are to IL-2 what is it 11 years old now? When Unity 5 comes out I may put some more hours into it the GI may make the graphics part easier but like you stated its a LOT of man hours for a small team and I wish you had the funding/team size to take WOTA further, I know how hard game design is when you/your team all has to be generalists. Im curious is it JUST you, 5 years of work later, or a team? I havnt read your whole thread on the Unity forums just glanced through. But all I know is you are worlds ahead of anyone else in a 'modern' subsim. OR naval sim for that matter. I recently got into Unreal 4. Wow if I had only learned c++ instead of c#. PS your water shader system is beautiful considering its a mobile build and when I see things like your stormy weather scenes it makes me go 'Blah go work on something else'. Props. Also you do alot of sound work correct? Very curious to see how it will sound on a PC system with a pro sound guy(s). Will post some pics of my models at some point. 3D modelling is my specialty. If you need any blueprints let me know I have prints of everything on a type 7. Hundreds of them at hi-res. Down to the windlass gearing. I count nearly 80 float variables just to calculate drag. You sir are simulating to the max. Viscosity, shaft efficiency, prop size, prop pitch... wow. Last edited by nsomnia; 01-20-15 at 12:08 AM.

01-21-15, 11:58 PM	#4
CybrSlydr Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Beverly, OH Posts: 263 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Truly impressive stuff!!! Anxious to see the PC release as well! __________________

01-22-15, 12:06 AM	#5
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,930 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! nsomnia! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

01-22-15, 06:16 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome to SubSim nsomnia __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-19-15, 09:28 PM	#1
nsomnia Weps Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 370 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Ive been watching WOTA, hes making it using the Unity engine (The Forest, Spintires, Construction Simulator 2015) and I too have been attempting making a sub simulator. I have a beautiful AAA quality water system with a perfect buoyency model, kelvin form wakes, prop backwash physics and effects, weather system, day night cycle, underwater god rays to a certain depth, realistic wave splash and a beautiful exterior model of a type VII. But coding the boat physics, let alone underwater physics. Makes my head hurt too much and seeing WOTA get further and further has made me leave it.