Basic manual map questions from very green skipper

Limey · 07-15-09, 05:53 AM

Hi there I'm new here but I've been lurking for a month or so. The name is a clue to my nationality

I finally picked up SHIV on Monday after realisng that a sub sim was what I've really been looking for in nearly 20 years of PC gaming. I've been slowly getting to grips with it. The only downside is that my girlfriend seems to have turned into my mother, ordering me to bed at the stupidly early hour of 3am just as I finally slip inside the escort screen. Anyone would think I had a job and responsibilities. Doesn't she know there's a war on?

I am running stock 1.4 with real environment and ROW sound mods only. I will put TMO on once I've got more hours in.

Anyway I've turned off map contact updates and the other 'realism' stuff (all I left on is the very pretty external camera.) I suppose I must enjoy doing trig against the clock for fun. Werner's sonar-only attack video was really helpful (very cool being instructed in submarine operations by a German) but there's a few things I'd like to do with the charts that I can't seem to make work. Can anyone help?

1. The manual says you can rename marks and attach notes. My short term memory isn't too hot so being able to do this would be a big help. Does anyone know how?

2. The manual also talks about plotting a ship-centered range circle (using the compass tool) that will move along with the sub on the nav map. I haven't got that to work yet but it would be very handy in plotting contacts using the radar and sonar. Is that possible or another mistake in the manual?

3. If I want to enter range, speed, bearing and AOB data into the TDC manually is the only possibility to use the target data tool in the attack periscope view? Can any of those data points be entered with some other tool on the nav map or attack map views?

4. Finally what do you guys use the attack map for? If I don't have the PK switched on I can't think of a use for it, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

Thanks!

Limey

SteveW1 · 07-15-09, 06:04 AM

Hi Welcome to Subsim, you will find lots of Skippers here willing to help out with various things.

On to your questions

1. The renaming of map marks does not work even though it says it in the manual (basically you had best through the manual out and find out all your information at Subsim).

2.I never even read this one in the manual or I missed it completely but I have found nothing in the game myself that will this.

3. The only way I have found to enter the Range, Speed and AOB details is through the Attack periscope.

4. I don't use the Attack map at all as I find it basically useless.

If your after some good Attack methods without using the PK look up the tutorials done by Rockin Robbins here on Subsim.

And again welcome and good hunting

Steve

Limey · 07-15-09, 06:14 AM

Cheers Steve, I thought as much about the manual. Shame about the attack map, if you could plot on it it would be very helpful.

I will look up Rockin Robbins' stuff. Seems to be several different ways of doing the same thing which is great.

All the best

Limey

DarkFish · 07-15-09, 06:18 AM

welcome to subsim

1 and 2 are AFAIK both not available in the game. The manual is basically a copy of the SH3 manual with a lot of non-existing rubbish added, never trust the manual.
3 For the US side this is the only way yes. If you buy 1.5 you can also play on the German side, the Germans do have tools on the attack map for manually setting all parameters for a solution.
4 when playing on the German side I frequently use it to manually enter (guesstimate) a solution if I ain't got the time to calculate it properly. My favorite attack range is 800 m so from that distance there's a pretty good chance you hit the target with a guesstimated solution.

Limey · 07-15-09, 06:33 AM

Thanks for the welcome! Looks like I will be buying 1.5, at least as soon as I can figure out how to get it in the UK (but that's another thread.)

captgeo · 07-15-09, 06:51 AM

Welcome aboard mate.

If youre still looking for a guide of some sort for the game , a good one can be found at this link.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/9661024145

Kloef · 07-15-09, 06:52 AM

I found my u-boat add-on copy on ebay,maybe worth checking out i bought it in the U.K for about 17 Euro..

And welcome aboard,good hunting!

Inner Sound · 07-15-09, 06:57 AM

Hi Limey. I bought Gold (it's got Uboats and is pre-patched up to 1.5), pre-loved, from Amazon in Germany in April. Was the only place at that time but it wasn't extortionate, about £20.

Been sinking ever since.

Limey · 07-15-09, 08:40 AM

Good suggestions, thank you all!

karamazovnew · 07-15-09, 09:05 AM

Hmm, SH4 vanilla...

The days when we still thought of the enemy as people with families and dreams. But now, we think of them merely as targets.

Really dude, make any effort possible to get Uboat addon and then try out one of the Mega Mods. And when you decided that you want more (if GWX doesn't come up untill then) get a copy of SH3, put GWX3+OLCgui+ACM on it and start praying. As a brit, you'll get a warm and fuzzy feeling as those british depth charges fall on your hat every time and knowing that the british were the nemesis of your Jerry boat.

SteveUK · 07-15-09, 10:08 AM

Hi Limey welcome aboard

From one to another only place I could track down U-boat missions over here was ebay, about £25 for me but it's well worth it IMO.

Munchausen · 07-15-09, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limey

3. If I want to enter range, speed, bearing and AOB data into the TDC manually is the only possibility to use the target data tool in the attack periscope view?

Be sure to check out one of the latest mods ... it fixes the AOB dial (upper right side of screen, periscope/TBT view) so that AOB can be sent directly from the dial to the TDC.

Limey · 07-16-09, 03:45 AM

In the end I found UBM on Amazon UK for a tenner, new, so I ordered that if only so all these mods will work.

kiwi_2005 · 07-16-09, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limey

The only downside is that my girlfriend seems to have turned into my mother, ordering me to bed at the stupidly early hour of 3am just as I finally slip inside the escort screen. Anyone would think I had a job and responsibilities. Doesn't she know there's a war on?

Limey

Welcome to sub sims

vanjast · 07-16-09, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limey

The only downside is that my girlfriend seems to have turned into my mother, ordering me to bed at the stupidly early hour of 3am just as I finally slip inside the escort screen. Anyone would think I had a job and responsibilities. Doesn't she know there's a war on?

Welcome... and do what I do.
When you're with her, act like a depraved sex maniac, and she'll brush you off asap, giving you the opportunity to scramble up the conn, and join the watch crew for the next few hours. If that doesn't happen.. you score anyway.

07-15-09, 05:53 AM	#1
Limey Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Basic manual map questions from very green skipper Hi there I'm new here but I've been lurking for a month or so. The name is a clue to my nationality I finally picked up SHIV on Monday after realisng that a sub sim was what I've really been looking for in nearly 20 years of PC gaming. I've been slowly getting to grips with it. The only downside is that my girlfriend seems to have turned into my mother, ordering me to bed at the stupidly early hour of 3am just as I finally slip inside the escort screen. Anyone would think I had a job and responsibilities. Doesn't she know there's a war on? I am running stock 1.4 with real environment and ROW sound mods only. I will put TMO on once I've got more hours in. Anyway I've turned off map contact updates and the other 'realism' stuff (all I left on is the very pretty external camera.) I suppose I must enjoy doing trig against the clock for fun. Werner's sonar-only attack video was really helpful (very cool being instructed in submarine operations by a German) but there's a few things I'd like to do with the charts that I can't seem to make work. Can anyone help? 1. The manual says you can rename marks and attach notes. My short term memory isn't too hot so being able to do this would be a big help. Does anyone know how? 2. The manual also talks about plotting a ship-centered range circle (using the compass tool) that will move along with the sub on the nav map. I haven't got that to work yet but it would be very handy in plotting contacts using the radar and sonar. Is that possible or another mistake in the manual? 3. If I want to enter range, speed, bearing and AOB data into the TDC manually is the only possibility to use the target data tool in the attack periscope view? Can any of those data points be entered with some other tool on the nav map or attack map views? 4. Finally what do you guys use the attack map for? If I don't have the PK switched on I can't think of a use for it, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Thanks! Limey

07-15-09, 06:04 AM	#2
SteveW1 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Hi Welcome to Subsim, you will find lots of Skippers here willing to help out with various things. On to your questions 1. The renaming of map marks does not work even though it says it in the manual (basically you had best through the manual out and find out all your information at Subsim). 2.I never even read this one in the manual or I missed it completely but I have found nothing in the game myself that will this. 3. The only way I have found to enter the Range, Speed and AOB details is through the Attack periscope. 4. I don't use the Attack map at all as I find it basically useless. If your after some good Attack methods without using the PK look up the tutorials done by Rockin Robbins here on Subsim. And again welcome and good hunting Steve __________________

07-15-09, 06:18 AM	#4
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	welcome to subsim 1 and 2 are AFAIK both not available in the game. The manual is basically a copy of the SH3 manual with a lot of non-existing rubbish added, never trust the manual. 3 For the US side this is the only way yes. If you buy 1.5 you can also play on the German side, the Germans do have tools on the attack map for manually setting all parameters for a solution. 4 when playing on the German side I frequently use it to manually enter (guesstimate) a solution if I ain't got the time to calculate it properly. My favorite attack range is 800 m so from that distance there's a pretty good chance you hit the target with a guesstimated solution. __________________

07-15-09, 06:51 AM	#6
captgeo Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 550 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard mate. If youre still looking for a guide of some sort for the game , a good one can be found at this link. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/9661024145 __________________

07-15-09, 06:52 AM	#7
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I found my u-boat add-on copy on ebay,maybe worth checking out i bought it in the U.K for about 17 Euro.. And welcome aboard,good hunting! __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

07-15-09, 06:14 AM	#3
Limey Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Cheers Steve, I thought as much about the manual. Shame about the attack map, if you could plot on it it would be very helpful. I will look up Rockin Robbins' stuff. Seems to be several different ways of doing the same thing which is great. All the best Limey

07-15-09, 06:33 AM	#5
Limey Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the welcome! Looks like I will be buying 1.5, at least as soon as I can figure out how to get it in the UK (but that's another thread.)

07-15-09, 06:57 AM	#8
Inner Sound Sparky Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 152 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Hi Limey. I bought Gold (it's got Uboats and is pre-patched up to 1.5), pre-loved, from Amazon in Germany in April. Was the only place at that time but it wasn't extortionate, about £20. Been sinking ever since.

07-15-09, 08:40 AM	#9
Limey Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Good suggestions, thank you all!

07-15-09, 09:05 AM	#10
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	Hmm, SH4 vanilla... The days when we still thought of the enemy as people with families and dreams. But now, we think of them merely as targets. Really dude, make any effort possible to get Uboat addon and then try out one of the Mega Mods. And when you decided that you want more (if GWX doesn't come up untill then) get a copy of SH3, put GWX3+OLCgui+ACM on it and start praying. As a brit, you'll get a warm and fuzzy feeling as those british depth charges fall on your hat every time and knowing that the british were the nemesis of your Jerry boat.

07-15-09, 10:08 AM	#11
SteveUK Helmsman Join Date: May 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 107 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	Hi Limey welcome aboard From one to another only place I could track down U-boat missions over here was ebay, about £25 for me but it's well worth it IMO.

07-16-09, 03:45 AM	#13
Limey Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	In the end I found UBM on Amazon UK for a tenner, new, so I ordered that if only so all these mods will work.