[mod]Thomsen's No Instant Death Screen Mod - Page 2

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

It could have been worse.

It might have been a merchant instead.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

A big, juicy, slow moving large tanker worth 15k tons with a british flag waving...

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-09-08, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

It could have been worse.

It might have been a merchant instead.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

A big, juicy, slow moving large tanker worth 15k tons with a british flag waving...

Or even worse... a Panamanian coastal tanker with a bofors gun.

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

It could have been worse.

It might have been a merchant instead.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

A big, juicy, slow moving large tanker worth 15k tons with a british flag waving...

Or even worse... a Panamanian coastal tanker with a bofors gun.

Why not a fishing boat? A schooner... A surf board... the shark from shark 3... we could even do the modelling for the bite mark in the hull... :rotfl:

lol... well im done hijacking this...
goodnight! o/

Hartmann · 01-09-08, 06:58 PM

Ok ! downloading for testing

One of the things that i hate more in sh3 is the death screen of "Death"
i like sims like sub command, Il-2 series, and others where you can see the action after your submarine or unit is destroyed.

USS Sea Tiger · 01-09-08, 07:06 PM

Can not down load there, any cance some kind soul could port it to file front?

I too would love to just watch my doomed creww disapear vice the dreaqth screen,

Paajtor · 01-09-08, 07:15 PM

LOL@Lehmann-Thomsen.

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USS Sea Tiger

Can not down load there, any cance some kind soul could port it to file front?

I too would love to just watch my doomed creww disapear vice the dreaqth screen,

For all of you that can't download for somereason, send me a PM with your email for me to send the mod. It's really small, can email it no problem!!

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 10:01 PM

360 views but no posts... is anyone trying this already? any feedback?

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-10-08, 01:10 AM

You'll want to test the mod in ramming conditions. Theoretically, what you've done will cause the player U-boat to survive being rammed by a battleship. Its been nearly two years since I've tested an arrangement such as yours so I cannot recall the details.

Good luck.

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-10-08, 02:02 AM

well yes, you are right about that...

But there are something to take in count.

1) You never should let your submarine be rammed by a surface vessel, and its very hard to happen.

2) If in real life the u-boat is rammered by a destroyer, for exemple, and its a very hard hit against the hull, the uboat would have a very serious damage, lots of flooding and equipment destroyed and deaths, but still the biggest part of the crew would be alive and would see their very ending moments, while they would sink to the depths.

3) In sh3, modded or not, if you are rammered really hard, you would berely hear the hit on the metal and would get the death screen. With my mod, there are flooding, there are deaths, there are equipment destroyed and you will sink to the botton and you wont be able to recover yourself, coz most parts of the uboat will be destroyed, you wont have any reliable equipment to help you out and save your life. I tested it myself. The exterior hull is much tougher, but the inside equipment is just as fragile as it was before. Dont matter if your hull is at 99%, if your eletric motors are destroyed and you have flooding all over the place, there is nothing you can do, you will sink and die, but at least you will be able to experience this. This mod is not intended to give you a second chance, its intended to show you whats happening AFTER YOU ARE ALREADY DOOMED!

As I said, the only real problem I can see so far is that one damaged uboat has the same crush depth as a brand new one. And who knows? Maybe even in a damaged uboat, the sinking crew would be able to experience really horrible last moments passing the 300 meters. There is not how to know that for sure, coz dead crew cant talk. But I deeply belive that those uboats could take a lot more that they were intended to, and not always the pressure hull would just implode all together in a bang. It would most probably collapse in fragments and with some time difference, and until the very last breath, the very last blink, there is no death screen for those poor sailors.

JCWolf · 01-10-08, 07:40 AM

I like the Mod idea,

But I also have a sugestion!

Being able to see the sinking U-Boat ???!!!

Let me say that I do not understand the purpose!
If you can not play anymore or save the boat what
is then, the purpose of seeing it go down??!!!

Realistic ??!!!

That sure is on some part, but the reazon the game pops up
such a End screen is because the boat is away from being
saved no matter what you do!

So this brings us to the same question, what is then the
purpose of watching your crew man dieing???!!!

I truthly prefer a Mod that changes the screen to a
song with maybe a message of farwell!:hmm:

But this is just mi 2 cents !

rik007 · 01-10-08, 03:48 PM

I tested it but we are a very long way off: see #30: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128575

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-10-08, 05:49 PM

Im here to say that Im enjoying all the opinions and the feedback, and also that Im working on a update for my mod. There are some people saying the uboat is too lightly damaged by gunfire and able to sustain heavy fire for long periodes and still travel. I'll increase the damage models and flooding rates, and I'll run some tests.

Anyone volunteers for beta testing?

Wildhawke11 · 01-10-08, 07:42 PM

Philip

Thank you so much for making this attempt to give us something which in my opinion and i have heard others say is something that is missing from this great little simulation.

01-10-08, 07:47 PM

Welcome to modding Sir!
It's a thankless obsession at times.
But,
for every mistake and assumption you fall upon?
Progress is made in advanceing your understanding
of SH3 and how it works!
Do not get discouraged and keep at it!

01-09-08, 06:58 PM	#19
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Ok ! downloading for testing One of the things that i hate more in sh3 is the death screen of "Death" i like sims like sub command, Il-2 series, and others where you can see the action after your submarine or unit is destroyed. __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

01-09-08, 07:06 PM	#20
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	sounds very interesting Can not down load there, any cance some kind soul could port it to file front? I too would love to just watch my doomed creww disapear vice the dreaqth screen,

01-09-08, 07:15 PM	#21
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,545 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	LOL@Lehmann-Thomsen. __________________

01-10-08, 01:10 AM	#24
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,875 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	You'll want to test the mod in ramming conditions. Theoretically, what you've done will cause the player U-boat to survive being rammed by a battleship. Its been nearly two years since I've tested an arrangement such as yours so I cannot recall the details. Good luck. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

01-10-08, 07:40 AM	#26
JCWolf Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain , Crossing Gibraltar! Posts: 2,292 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 1	I like the Mod idea, But I also have a sugestion! Being able to see the sinking U-Boat ???!!! Let me say that I do not understand the purpose! If you can not play anymore or save the boat what is then, the purpose of seeing it go down??!!! Realistic ??!!! That sure is on some part, but the reazon the game pops up such a End screen is because the boat is away from being saved no matter what you do! So this brings us to the same question, what is then the purpose of watching your crew man dieing???!!! I truthly prefer a Mod that changes the screen to a song with maybe a message of farwell!:hmm: But this is just mi 2 cents ! __________________ JCWolf Mediafire SHIII Page User name : JCWolf Password : stefre@jcm

01-09-08, 10:01 PM	#23
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	360 views but no posts... is anyone trying this already? any feedback?

01-10-08, 02:02 AM	#25
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	well yes, you are right about that... But there are something to take in count. 1) You never should let your submarine be rammed by a surface vessel, and its very hard to happen. 2) If in real life the u-boat is rammered by a destroyer, for exemple, and its a very hard hit against the hull, the uboat would have a very serious damage, lots of flooding and equipment destroyed and deaths, but still the biggest part of the crew would be alive and would see their very ending moments, while they would sink to the depths. 3) In sh3, modded or not, if you are rammered really hard, you would berely hear the hit on the metal and would get the death screen. With my mod, there are flooding, there are deaths, there are equipment destroyed and you will sink to the botton and you wont be able to recover yourself, coz most parts of the uboat will be destroyed, you wont have any reliable equipment to help you out and save your life. I tested it myself. The exterior hull is much tougher, but the inside equipment is just as fragile as it was before. Dont matter if your hull is at 99%, if your eletric motors are destroyed and you have flooding all over the place, there is nothing you can do, you will sink and die, but at least you will be able to experience this. This mod is not intended to give you a second chance, its intended to show you whats happening AFTER YOU ARE ALREADY DOOMED! As I said, the only real problem I can see so far is that one damaged uboat has the same crush depth as a brand new one. And who knows? Maybe even in a damaged uboat, the sinking crew would be able to experience really horrible last moments passing the 300 meters. There is not how to know that for sure, coz dead crew cant talk. But I deeply belive that those uboats could take a lot more that they were intended to, and not always the pressure hull would just implode all together in a bang. It would most probably collapse in fragments and with some time difference, and until the very last breath, the very last blink, there is no death screen for those poor sailors.

01-10-08, 03:48 PM	#27
rik007 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 716 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	I tested it but we are a very long way off: see #30: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128575

01-10-08, 05:49 PM	#28
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Im here to say that Im enjoying all the opinions and the feedback, and also that Im working on a update for my mod. There are some people saying the uboat is too lightly damaged by gunfire and able to sustain heavy fire for long periodes and still travel. I'll increase the damage models and flooding rates, and I'll run some tests. Anyone volunteers for beta testing? __________________ To each his own

01-10-08, 07:42 PM	#29
Wildhawke11 Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK England Posts: 264 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Philip Thank you so much for making this attempt to give us something which in my opinion and i have heard others say is something that is missing from this great little simulation.

01-10-08, 07:47 PM	#30
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Welcome to modding Sir! It's a thankless obsession at times. But, for every mistake and assumption you fall upon? Progress is made in advanceing your understanding of SH3 and how it works! Do not get discouraged and keep at it!