US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 701

u crank · 09-09-20, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Unreal. The declaration of bancrupcty of a civilization and a political culture.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but here goes. It is business as usual. Nothing new or disturbing. It's politics.

Jimbuna · 09-09-20, 08:10 AM

US President Donald Trump has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize.

Norwegian politician Christian Tybring-Gjedde made the nomination following a “historic peace agreement” between the United Arab Emirates and Israel.

The far-right leader also praised Mr Trump for resolving other protracted conflicts worldwide and said he has made "tremendous efforts" in brokering peace.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...id=mailsignout

Skybird · 09-09-20, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but here goes. It is business as usual. Nothing new or disturbing. It's politics.

No. Things have escalated beyond what once - and not too logn ago - ago was unimaginable. Palin and Tea Party movement maybe were a first warning shot. Bush jr,. was another, thoguzh quite different one. Since then, the rounds fell closer, and became louder. You dont get away with trying to relativize it. Its not as it always has been. Its become much worse.

Onkel Neal · 09-09-20, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

No. Things have escalated beyond what once - and not too logn ago - ago was unimaginable. Palin and Tea Party movement maybe were a first warning shot. Bush jr,. was another, thoguzh quite different one. Since then, the rounds fell closer, and became louder. You dont get away with trying to relativize it. Its not as it always has been. Its become much worse.

I think you are overlooking that the Tea Party movement was a reaction to something far more damaging to the society and political culture.

Not sure how George W. Bush was such a problem.

Skybird · 09-09-20, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I think you are overlooking that the Tea Party movement was a reaction to something far more damaging to the society and political culture.

Like our AfD. And both are totally nuts by now. And no, if any of thr two would come - or have come to power,. I would not see that as the lesser evil. These kind of antidots are doing as much damage as what they claim they want to heal. If not more - that will be up to the historians.

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Not sure how George W. Bush was such a problem.

Remember his ridiculous drive to of from his inauguration? Maybe just cosmetic, but still illustrating. And then later: his war against Iraq based on lies? That was not only cosmetic. It was a conspiracy, and a capital crime against the American nation and the people of it. And beyond.

Is this the way the founding fathers have envisioned things how to do? A rhetorical quesiton, the answer of course must be a loud and sounding "No". And it shows. The system that roots back ont heir ideas and viisons, is incapable to forsee or dealwith or control a devastating phenomenon like Trump. And Trump, as I often said, is nto the cause, he is the latest and most intense symüptom of process that runs since longer, constantly intensifying. And now it all derails.

u crank · 09-09-20, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

No. Things have escalated beyond what once - and not too logn ago - ago was unimaginable.

I disagree. What has escalated is the media coverage of the political world. The American media (before Fox News) leaned left but it was not obvious. Not any more. There is a constant vomiting of news stories meant to swing public opinion. The two recent smear jobs by the once respected Atlantic is easy proof of that. The media has become the propaganda arm of the two political parties and it is they who more than any polititian keep this ridiculous rhetoric going. And I fear that you have become one of their victims.

Skybird · 09-09-20, 09:40 AM

No. You marginalise the escalation by complaining that too much attention is beign spend on it, and if people would not care, it would not be there. You could as well say: if its not on TV, than it did not happen. But it has happend, independent from people'S attention focus and attention span.

Relativisation, marginalisation - Trump'S propaganda is working with these a very lot, its form the texstbook on the 101 of propaganda. And you copy it...?

Don't.

Skybird · 09-09-20, 09:58 AM

They nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Award.

Somebody seems to want seeing him winning in Novembre.

Jimbuna · 09-09-20, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

They nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Award.

Somebody seems to want seeing him winning in Novembre.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...ostcount=10502

Skybird · 09-09-20, 10:14 AM

^ I thought you were kidding!

------

Meanwhile: police shoots autistic boy after his mom called them for help.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54041549

Bang! Bang! Bang! Once! A-! Gain!

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And:

House Committee launches new investigation into Postmaster General Louis DeJoy

https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldi...oy-91257413924

Stinker. Foul play once again.

Mr Quatro · 09-09-20, 10:42 AM

It seems like no matter who the POTUS is there is always disagreements to way he handles any given situation,
even Bush coming back with a victory dance on a USN aircraft carrier.

Truman (people were actually mad at him for dropping the A-bomb)
Eisenhower (was probably among the best and least criticized)
Kennedy (Cuba didn't like him, the mafia didn't like him, Russia didn't like him and someone shot him)
Johnson (Started a war he couldn't finish)
Nixon (we all know how that turned out)
Ford (do nothing president)
Carter (let us down in Iran)
Regan (got shot for being a good president)
Bush (didn't finish the war that his son had to finish)
Clinton (so why was she on her knees anyway in the library)
Bush (what do you mean they don't have any WMD's)
Obama (still paying for his fence sitting)
Trump (actor, poker player, egomaniac, but gets the job done)

u crank · 09-09-20, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Relativisation, marginalisation - Trump'S propaganda is working with these a very lot, its form the texstbook on the 101 of propaganda. And you copy it...?

It's funny but that is exactly what I am saying about you and the left wing MSM.

Catfish · 09-09-20, 01:30 PM

This is exactly why no one understands you

Armistead · 09-09-20, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I disagree. What has escalated is the media coverage of the political world. The American media (before Fox News) leaned left but it was not obvious. Not any more. There is a constant vomiting of news stories meant to swing public opinion. The two recent smear jobs by the once respected Atlantic is easy proof of that. The media has become the propaganda arm of the two political parties and it is they who more than any polititian keep this ridiculous rhetoric going. And I fear that you have become one of their victims.

What's true or not, the Dems and Trump's enemies are doing a great job politically of pushing off the ambush before the election, such as things that happened a few years ago come out now right before the election, a mass of people are releasing their anti Trump books, Woodward releasing his stuff...It's got Trump on a big defensive and of course Trump is attacking back with his usual used car sales approach. The Trump team needs to get on it with their ambush, sure they can find some unnamed sources.

u crank · 09-09-20, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

This is exactly why no one understands you

"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"

09-09-20, 08:10 AM	#10502
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09-09-20, 09:40 AM	#10507
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,548 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	No. You marginalise the escalation by complaining that too much attention is beign spend on it, and if people would not care, it would not be there. You could as well say: if its not on TV, than it did not happen. But it has happend, independent from people'S attention focus and attention span. Relativisation, marginalisation - Trump'S propaganda is working with these a very lot, its form the texstbook on the 101 of propaganda. And you copy it...? Don't. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-09-20, 09:58 AM	#10508
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,548 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	They nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Award. Somebody seems to want seeing him winning in Novembre. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-09-20, 10:14 AM	#10510
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,548 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	^ I thought you were kidding! ------ Meanwhile: police shoots autistic boy after his mom called them for help. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54041549 Bang! Bang! Bang! Once! A-! Gain! ----- And: House Committee launches new investigation into Postmaster General Louis DeJoy https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldi...oy-91257413924 Stinker. Foul play once again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-09-20 at 10:37 AM.

09-09-20, 10:42 AM	#10511
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It seems like no matter who the POTUS is there is always disagreements to way he handles any given situation, even Bush coming back with a victory dance on a USN aircraft carrier. Truman (people were actually mad at him for dropping the A-bomb) Eisenhower (was probably among the best and least criticized) Kennedy (Cuba didn't like him, the mafia didn't like him, Russia didn't like him and someone shot him) Johnson (Started a war he couldn't finish) Nixon (we all know how that turned out) Ford (do nothing president) Carter (let us down in Iran) Regan (got shot for being a good president) Bush (didn't finish the war that his son had to finish) Clinton (so why was she on her knees anyway in the library) Bush (what do you mean they don't have any WMD's) Obama (still paying for his fence sitting) Trump (actor, poker player, egomaniac, but gets the job done) __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This is exactly why no one understands you __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.