[REL]OM V40X Beta - Page 11

lurker_hlb3 · 08-08-08, 10:06 PM

Beta 3 is up

A lot of bug fixes based on the feed back of the beta tester. The current outstanding problem is the system failure to auto upgrade the Turms/Conning Towers for the Type VIIC, Type IXB and Type IXC.

Check the first post for the download link

Lurker

Task Force · 08-08-08, 10:35 PM

Thanks for the new beta version lurker.

LukeFF · 08-09-08, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntEater

Other than that, apparently the risk of being detected while using radar was largely a german fear. It was technically possible, but it seems to me the allies were never great RWR users, apart from RAF nightfighters and US fleet boats.

What's funny about that is that the Americans, during the war, did not believe the Japanese had the technology to home in on American radar emissions, but information came out after the war that indicated the Japanese had the equipment on board their ships as early as 1942 that could pick up American radar signals. Even so, standard protocol for operating SD radar was to run it intermittently at short intervals.

leorfeo · 08-09-08, 04:13 AM

Thx for the new beta lurker!

csengoi · 08-09-08, 07:04 AM

First of all, thank you for your great work. I love it!!!
And here is a little glitch with the type II. The bearing tool inside the compass shows incorrect heading:
(nem carrier default settings 1939 ...)

cgjimeneza · 08-09-08, 07:22 AM

could we raise some the scope depth¿ we constantly loose target lock in the rough seas, maybe some 0.3 to 0.5 metres...

just a bit but not enough to expose the conning tower

Im no.3 in the new version download!!

torps dont explode, now I feel happily frustrated, most of my kills are single merchs by deck gun.

only torp that hit yesterday hit just after the ship had blown... also I have observed an increase in the AI of the ships, they change speeds when detecting torpedo wakes and they weave on their course, making use of a spread almost a rule, buy I feel the auto fire control solution tend to aim for the after part of the ship.

overall, an excellent job

cgjimeneza · 08-09-08, 10:11 PM

Im returning to port, 12 kills some 53000 tons plus and two eels remaingn in my aft tubes,

calendar says its jan 29,1940 but:

british ports are red colored - ok
norwegian ports are also red - Germany invaded them a bit later didnt it?
french ports are blue - they should be red until-june to july when they surrender and the german take them over

do check your bases allegiance

still too many duds.. Doenitz must be going ape

lurker_hlb3 · 08-09-08, 10:19 PM

Operation Monsun Tech Notes

Conning Towers / Turms

Unlike SH3, Turmumbau (Conning Towers) cannot be upgraded manually, but are coded to upgrade on certain dates within the *.upcge files. The only U-boats that are programmed for this upgrade are the Type VIIC, Type IXB and Type IXC. This is the schedule for the different subs

Type VIIC

Turmumbau I - 1940-07-30 to 1942-06-15
Turmumbau II - 1942-06-16 to 1943-12-15
Turmumbau III- 1943-12-16 to 1945-05-15

Type IXB

Turmumbau I - 1939-07-30 to 1942-08-18
Turmumbau II - 1942-08-19 to 1945-05-15

Type IXC

Turmumbau I - 1941-01-02 to 1943-02-15
Turmumbau III - 1943-02-16 to 1945-05-15

However you will have to “earn” this upgrade, there is a condition where you have to have had at least one patrol that was considered a good patrol. IE, earn more renown then the minimum on the first patrol rating. Just so ever one understands, besides competeing the primary objective of patrolling a defined area for the proscribed time, there is a “hidden” objective that requires you to sink any where from 1000 to 10000 tons pre patrol. So remember this, ever time you report in and get a new assignment you get another “hidden” objective in it.

Radars

There are only two types of radars in OM. The FuMO 61 'Hohentwiel U' Radar and the FuMO 65 'Hohentwiel U1 Drauf' Radar. The FuMO 61 will be an “optional” upgrade in Sept 1943 and a standard install Sept 1944 for the Type VIIC / Type VIIC41 / Type IXC / Type IXC40 and Type IXD2. The FuMO 64 becomes available in June 1944. The FuMO 29 and FuMO 30 will not be used because of the “very limited” deployment of the FuMO 29 and the unreliability of the FuMO 30.

csengoi · 08-10-08, 05:13 AM

Dear Lurker and all community,
Are you planning to expand the messages.txt with much more content like in SH3 GWX?
I love to receive messages on how the entire war is going etc.
Or is already there one for shIV which I could download?

Another question: where can I find radio stations for Atlantic campaign? The ones I found are only from 1942 december...

AntEater · 08-10-08, 07:57 AM

So far no crash bugs spotted.

lurker_hlb3 · 08-10-08, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csengoi

Dear Lurker and all community,
Are you planning to expand the messages.txt with much more content like in SH3 GWX?
I love to receive messages on how the entire war is going etc.
Or is already there one for shIV which I could download?

Another question: where can I find radio stations for Atlantic campaign? The ones I found are only from 1942 december...

Quote:

Are you planning to expand the messages.txt

Will work on this in the future.

Quote:

where can I find radio stations for Atlantic campaign

I have made no changes in this area

AntEater · 08-10-08, 10:30 AM

Sofar, the thing seems stable, however, is the "sink ships" goal really necessary?

lurker_hlb3 · 08-10-08, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntEater

however, is the "sink ships" goal really necessary?

This is a "as design" feature of OM

AntEater · 08-10-08, 03:12 PM

Ok, as I sofar could not spot fatal bugs, here comes the nitpicking

- Aircraft: take an example on the ASW layer mod by AkbarGulag and Donut. This mod is maybe too strong for the Pacific theater, but the intensity and threat of air attacks would be just right for a late war campaign. I was able to sail a VIIC from Bergen to Iceland in late 1944 without a single air attack. Biscay air attacks are more frequent, but should be increased to almost unbearable frequence.
Generally, you should not be able to spend daytime on the surface in the middle north sea even in 1939 without getting an air attack.

- damage model
Has been really improved, but I still think most air attacks should inflict instant fatal damage, if the player does not crash dive immidiately, as it is currently when using RFB, your excellent RSRD campaign and the above mentioned ASW campaign layers.
I survived three air attacks with heavy damage before finally going to the fishes.

Orion2012 · 08-10-08, 06:47 PM

So far so good. Everything seems to be coming together nicely Lurker, just a couple of quick questions.

First off...can anyone else having this glitch, it's just cosmetic, and I'm not really worried about it, just curious to see if anyone has replicated it. The picture is from the interior of a VIIB leaving Kiel in spet of 39.

Notice the wierd glare on the speed gauge??

Is this ship from panama or not??

Also, if my memory served me correctly, this was a victory cargo and I didn't think they were in use in 39, although that may just apply to PTO.

Also, in the Type VIIB seems to have a depth keeping problem. If I order ahead at 7kts at 130 meters. I'll only dive to say, 120-122 meters, at ahead flanks the depth will still only run at about 124-125 meters. Is this a historically acurate with this make of U-boat. I know that it should run a meter or so shallow when > 2kts. Or did Sh4 start calculating whether I make my daily trim dive or not.

08-08-08, 10:35 PM	#152
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the new beta version lurker. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-09-08, 07:22 AM	#156
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	scope depth and others could we raise some the scope depth¿ we constantly loose target lock in the rough seas, maybe some 0.3 to 0.5 metres... just a bit but not enough to expose the conning tower Im no.3 in the new version download!! torps dont explode, now I feel happily frustrated, most of my kills are single merchs by deck gun. only torp that hit yesterday hit just after the ship had blown... also I have observed an increase in the AI of the ships, they change speeds when detecting torpedo wakes and they weave on their course, making use of a spread almost a rule, buy I feel the auto fire control solution tend to aim for the after part of the ship. overall, an excellent job __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

08-09-08, 10:11 PM	#157
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	french ally? Im returning to port, 12 kills some 53000 tons plus and two eels remaingn in my aft tubes, calendar says its jan 29,1940 but: british ports are red colored - ok norwegian ports are also red - Germany invaded them a bit later didnt it? french ports are blue - they should be red until-june to july when they surrender and the german take them over do check your bases allegiance still too many duds.. Doenitz must be going ape __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

08-09-08, 10:19 PM	#158
lurker_hlb3 Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Calif Posts: 2,290 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 12	Operation Monsun Tech Notes Operation Monsun Tech Notes Conning Towers / Turms Unlike SH3, Turmumbau (Conning Towers) cannot be upgraded manually, but are coded to upgrade on certain dates within the *.upcge files. The only U-boats that are programmed for this upgrade are the Type VIIC, Type IXB and Type IXC. This is the schedule for the different subs Type VIIC Turmumbau I - 1940-07-30 to 1942-06-15 Turmumbau II - 1942-06-16 to 1943-12-15 Turmumbau III- 1943-12-16 to 1945-05-15 Type IXB Turmumbau I - 1939-07-30 to 1942-08-18 Turmumbau II - 1942-08-19 to 1945-05-15 Type IXC Turmumbau I - 1941-01-02 to 1943-02-15 Turmumbau III - 1943-02-16 to 1945-05-15 However you will have to “earn” this upgrade, there is a condition where you have to have had at least one patrol that was considered a good patrol. IE, earn more renown then the minimum on the first patrol rating. Just so ever one understands, besides competeing the primary objective of patrolling a defined area for the proscribed time, there is a “hidden” objective that requires you to sink any where from 1000 to 10000 tons pre patrol. So remember this, ever time you report in and get a new assignment you get another “hidden” objective in it. Radars There are only two types of radars in OM. The FuMO 61 'Hohentwiel U' Radar and the FuMO 65 'Hohentwiel U1 Drauf' Radar. The FuMO 61 will be an “optional” upgrade in Sept 1943 and a standard install Sept 1944 for the Type VIIC / Type VIIC41 / Type IXC / Type IXC40 and Type IXD2. The FuMO 64 becomes available in June 1944. The FuMO 29 and FuMO 30 will not be used because of the “very limited” deployment of the FuMO 29 and the unreliability of the FuMO 30.

08-10-08, 07:57 AM	#160
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So far no crash bugs spotted. __________________

08-08-08, 10:06 PM	#151
lurker_hlb3 Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Calif Posts: 2,290 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 12	Beta 3 is up A lot of bug fixes based on the feed back of the beta tester. The current outstanding problem is the system failure to auto upgrade the Turms/Conning Towers for the Type VIIC, Type IXB and Type IXC. Check the first post for the download link Lurker

08-09-08, 04:13 AM	#154
leorfeo Seaman Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Thx for the new beta lurker!

08-09-08, 07:04 AM	#155
csengoi A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 75 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	First of all, thank you for your great work. I love it!!! And here is a little glitch with the type II. The bearing tool inside the compass shows incorrect heading: (nem carrier default settings 1939 ...)

08-10-08, 05:13 AM	#159
csengoi A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 75 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Dear Lurker and all community, Are you planning to expand the messages.txt with much more content like in SH3 GWX? I love to receive messages on how the entire war is going etc. Or is already there one for shIV which I could download? Another question: where can I find radio stations for Atlantic campaign? The ones I found are only from 1942 december...

08-10-08, 10:30 AM	#162
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sofar, the thing seems stable, however, is the "sink ships" goal really necessary? __________________

08-10-08, 03:12 PM	#164
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, as I sofar could not spot fatal bugs, here comes the nitpicking - Aircraft: take an example on the ASW layer mod by AkbarGulag and Donut. This mod is maybe too strong for the Pacific theater, but the intensity and threat of air attacks would be just right for a late war campaign. I was able to sail a VIIC from Bergen to Iceland in late 1944 without a single air attack. Biscay air attacks are more frequent, but should be increased to almost unbearable frequence. Generally, you should not be able to spend daytime on the surface in the middle north sea even in 1939 without getting an air attack. - damage model Has been really improved, but I still think most air attacks should inflict instant fatal damage, if the player does not crash dive immidiately, as it is currently when using RFB, your excellent RSRD campaign and the above mentioned ASW campaign layers. I survived three air attacks with heavy damage before finally going to the fishes. __________________

08-10-08, 06:47 PM	#165
Orion2012 Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 611 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So far so good. Everything seems to be coming together nicely Lurker, just a couple of quick questions. First off...can anyone else having this glitch, it's just cosmetic, and I'm not really worried about it, just curious to see if anyone has replicated it. The picture is from the interior of a VIIB leaving Kiel in spet of 39. Notice the wierd glare on the speed gauge?? Is this ship from panama or not?? Also, if my memory served me correctly, this was a victory cargo and I didn't think they were in use in 39, although that may just apply to PTO. Also, in the Type VIIB seems to have a depth keeping problem. If I order ahead at 7kts at 130 meters. I'll only dive to say, 120-122 meters, at ahead flanks the depth will still only run at about 124-125 meters. Is this a historically acurate with this make of U-boat. I know that it should run a meter or so shallow when > 2kts. Or did Sh4 start calculating whether I make my daily trim dive or not. Last edited by Orion2012; 08-10-08 at 07:01 PM.