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Old 01-29-09, 12:35 PM   #1
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Default U-864 is finally being raised!

Today, the Norwegian government decided to raise the U-864 (Sank after being torpedoed outside Fedje during WWII) , due to the possible environmental damage all the mercury onboard could cause
Link to norwegian newspaper: http://www.bt.no/lokalt/hordaland/article782736.ece
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Old 01-29-09, 12:42 PM   #2
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It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
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Old 01-29-09, 12:48 PM   #3
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It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
I truly agree, mate. I hope the do this with the proper respect since it is the last resting place of the crew.
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Old 01-29-09, 01:07 PM   #4
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The link dident help me since I cant read that but I'm wondering...

Where did all this mercury come from? How much is there?

Isnt there a possibility of doing more damage by trying to raise her as opposed to letting her lie?
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Old 01-29-09, 01:11 PM   #5
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The link dident help me since I cant read that but I'm wondering...

Where did all this mercury come from? How much is there?

Isnt there a possibility of doing more damage by trying to raise her as opposed to letting her lie?
SW makes a very good point.

@ SETH Thx for article.
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There was thoughts of making a huge dome to cover the entire boat. I would think this is best. Do not disturb the final resting place and possibility of spilling the mercury would be non-existant.
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Old 01-29-09, 01:31 PM   #7
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It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
I truly agree, mate. I hope the do this with the proper respect since it is the last resting place of the crew.
The German navy should have a full military honor guard present who will all salute arms when the boat breaks the surface.
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Old 01-29-09, 10:50 PM   #8
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It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
I truly agree, mate. I hope the do this with the proper respect since it is the last resting place of the crew.
The German navy should have a full military honor guard present who will all salute arms when the boat breaks the surface.
I disagree.
Those who fought for the Nazis should be respected in death as humans, but not
honored in death as soldiers.
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Old 01-30-09, 12:54 AM   #9
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Personally I understand the need to respect a designated war grave that I'm sure this sub is seen as. It would make sense to remove the mercury without actually hauling any part of the sub up to the surface. However, I'm also interested in WW 2 wrecks especially in near-by Scandinavian waters.

If there's a wreck that sank and nobody went down with it, it would be ok to raise it? Nobody would say no to that? What about raising some cargo, I know that quite a lot of cargo went to the bottom of the sea in the Barents sea with the Arctic convoys, PQ-17 depicted in my sig image.
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It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
I truly agree, mate. I hope the do this with the proper respect since it is the last resting place of the crew.
The German navy should have a full military honor guard present who will all salute arms when the boat breaks the surface.
I disagree.
Those who fought for the Nazis should be respected in death as humans, but not
honored in death as soldiers.
I totally disagree. They fought for their country. If Himmler sank in a one man sub full of mercury, I would agree that a saluting band would be wierd.
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Originally Posted by Letum
It's a shame they have to disturb a grave, but mercury really is nasty stuff.
I truly agree, mate. I hope the do this with the proper respect since it is the last resting place of the crew.
The German navy should have a full military honor guard present who will all salute arms when the boat breaks the surface.
I disagree.
Those who fought for the Nazis should be respected in death as humans, but not
honored in death as soldiers.
You sir, make me sick with that statement. I really wouldnt have expected that from you, Letum.

And what Letum said above is waht pisses me off, German is always looked as the baddies, every one of them. Yet, I dare to say that 80% of the armed forces had nothing to do with the political Nazi party or had any will to fight for it. They fought for their country, just as brits for UK, finns for Finland, americans for US.

And to top that, we all know (yet some dont want to admit it) germany had the most advanced and the most skilled army at the time.

If you take a dive to the history books of german army, you realise that there's hundreds or even thousands of soldiers who all would deserve an statue somewhere, but they dont. Why? Because they were the baddies.
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