[REL] Playable Russian Subs

Daldryk · 06-25-17, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Where did you get that data?

Web sites and videos russian on Youtube on this submarine. After comparing its speed varies from 41 to 45 noeuds, then be aware that there are two classes of Alfa I and II.
I've been testing the maneuverability and power with Cold Waters. At this speed in depth it corresponds well to what is said of him. Capable of avoiding a torpedo very grabde speed. A submarine that turns very quickly. Of course he does not avoid all the torpedoes, but that is his advantage.

cookiemonste · 06-25-17, 07:58 AM

I would take the russian videos with a grain fo salt. The russians are known to inflate some data to make stuff look better.

ikalugin · 06-25-17, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cookiemonste

I would take the russian videos with a grain fo salt. The russians are known to inflate some data to make stuff look better.

The only sub related videos that I have watched so far are either in eng (ie subsim playthroughs) or are accurate. The figures availiable on the commonly used russian web sources conflict with the ones he has supplied.

My guess would be that he is using outdated cold war era data, especially on things like dive depth, because back then the assumption was that titanium was used to improve dive depth, not to make hull lighter.

ikalugin · 06-25-17, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Daldryk

Web sites and videos russian on Youtube on this submarine. After comparing its speed varies from 41 to 45 noeuds, then be aware that there are two classes of Alfa I and II.
I've been testing the maneuverability and power with Cold Waters. At this speed in depth it corresponds well to what is said of him. Capable of avoiding a torpedo very grabde speed. A submarine that turns very quickly. Of course he does not avoid all the torpedoes, but that is his advantage.

Can you, please, be more specific?

Where did you find out the difference between pr.705 and pr.705K (and I generously assume that you use Alfa-I and Alfa-II designations to destinguish between the two) in terms of speed?

As far as I am aware:
- you got the dive depths (рабочая and предельная)
- you got the speeds wrong (though you did correct yourself later, in reality the 41knot speed was not usable outside of trials and the subs never exceeded 39 knots)
- you got the number of turbines wrong (as far as I am aware both pr.705 and pr.705K use the same turbine - ГТЗА ОК-7)

06-25-17, 07:58 AM	#2
cookiemonste Medic Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Somewhere Posts: 167 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I would take the russian videos with a grain fo salt. The russians are known to inflate some data to make stuff look better.