Can't initialize 3d engine Windows 8

jf3000 · 09-02-14, 02:54 AM

Has been a very long time since I have been here, You last visited: 09-04-2011 at 09:12 PM, lots of new people. So I have been through the forum and red just about every post on how to fix this and yet I can't get it too work. I am using a monitor that goes far beyond that of 1024x768. I have tried using the files:

dx9res10_2.zip and SH3_XPSP2_Res_Fix_for_1.4b.zip

and both do nothing, the game just crashes.

There is no option to rollback the driver to a previous driver since the machine requires the latest.

How is one supposed to get this running on Windows 8, most of the threads related to Windows 7 which serves as pretty much the same, yet no solution. I am surprised there isn't a sticky for this annoying issue which has been going on for how long...

Any help much appreciated, thank you.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-02-14, 04:09 AM

Make sure you have your graphics at (I think) 59Hz (or it may be 60), and rename the start-up video file so it doesn't play a new launch. The finer details are around these parts somewhere, and as always I could be wrong.

jf3000 · 09-02-14, 04:21 AM

Always run refresh rate and 60Hz and those video files whether they're wmv or bik I always rename.

So I have tried the Conus' SH3GWX Widescreen Mod as well and get the same issue, I am sure that mod was never designed for the Steam version of this game, nonetheless it didnt work and same error.

Fubar2Niner · 09-02-14, 04:58 AM

@jf3000

Graphics card nvidia per chance?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

jf3000 · 09-02-14, 05:14 AM

Yes and I know about the issue with it and I can't rollback the driver its just not an option.

BigWalleye · 09-02-14, 06:27 AM

Another Steam-related issue? Uff da! Unless you are really strapped for cash, I'd suggest you invest $10 and get a download from Amazon. (Or the DVD if you are not in the US.) Then, at least you'll have a clean test bed. Most mods can be induced to work with the Steam version, but they require special handling. Desertstriker has a couple of tutorials on the subject.

Have you tried running CONUS' widescreen mod at 1066x768? I have an NVidia 540M and that works for me.

As for the hi-rez fixes, I never got anything to work except Van1920x1080. It works great. But it is written for NYGM and Hitman's GUI. Period.

I am running on Win7 Home Premium. Don't know if that is similar enough to Win8 to be useful to you.

Good luck.

cdrsubron7 · 09-02-14, 07:28 AM

Have you installed DX 9.0c on your computer? SH3 needs DX 9.0c in order to run correctly.

jf3000 · 09-02-14, 07:33 AM

There is always a smart ass on this forum somewhere. Its clear that you don't know that D9 is not designed for a Windows 8 machine running 64 bit.

Hinrich Schwab · 09-02-14, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf3000

There is always a smart ass on this forum somewhere. Its clear that you don't know that D9 is not designed for a Windows 8 machine running 64 bit.

1. You are reading too much into the statement. cdrsubron7is actually trying to help. DirectX compatibility issues are notorious for causing no end of problems with games. Windows 8 is equally notorious for its nigh-nonexistent backward compatibility.

2. Copping an attitude is not going to get you any closer to resolving your issue.

BigWalleye · 09-02-14, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

SH3 needs DX 9.0c in order to run correctly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf3000

D9 is not designed for a Windows 8 machine running 64 bit.

If both of those statements are correct, then perhaps that is where your problem lies?

Hinrich Schwab · 09-02-14, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

If both of those statements are correct, then perhaps that is where your problem lies?

It may be possible that the Res fix OP used doesn't work with Windows 8. That could be a problem, too.

jf3000 · 09-02-14, 02:33 PM

Its all good I have this running under Windows 8.1, none of the actions mentioned above work for Windows 8.1 since there is nothing on this forum or the actual internet mentioning anything about Windows 8.1 and SH3.

For the last few hours and quite a few coffee's I have wrote my own DLL file which gives me the option to run SH3 in any resolution.

Since my monitor goes outside the boundaries of 1024x768 because back in the day that was an extremely high res, my modification allows for the opposite and now running at 1824x1014.

The DLL now injects into the sh3.exe and fools the application into thinking its running at a resolution of 1024x768.

I thought I would atleast try here and see if there was still a fix for this terrible issue.

This doesn't really help people who run outside the wall of 1024x768 and also asking users to revert back to an old driver for a lot of people is either out of the question, painful or I just don't know. Once I have enjoyed my time back on the ocean I will come back and post the application running under the latest .NET 4.5, options are very basic, select load to load the sh3.exe, click inject, choose the resolution or choose custom, click apply, window will appear with a loading bar, once complete will tell you its successfully injected, click the play button, SH3 loads fine.

I did get this working under the Steam version, as someone suggested go and buy it off Amazon and download from there, since I had already bought it and the file structure was pretty much the same, I gave it a shot.

Sorry for any ramblings I have made, I do have lots of respect for the people on here, especially the few of you as far back as 2006 and before that.

Thanks for the help.

Fubar2Niner · 09-02-14, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf3000

Sorry for any ramblings I have made, I do have lots of respect for the people on here, especially the few of you as far back as 2006 and before that.

Thanks for the help.

I should just about bloody well think so young whipper snapper

Glad you got it sorted.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

cdrsubron7 · 09-02-14, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf3000

There is always a smart ass on this forum somewhere. Its clear that you don't know that D9 is not designed for a Windows 8 machine running 64 bit.

It's true I may be a smart ass, but I think I know more than you, fella. I play SH4 on Win 8.1 and had to install DX 9.0c in order to play the game. The same applies to SH3. DX is backwards compatible. Try and see, you've got nothing to loose. It won't harm your windows install for Win 8.

Maybe the fault lies win win 8, you'll still need DX 9.0c in order to run the game.

Truly, I wish you the best of luck getting SH3 to run on Win 8, or 8.1.

BigWalleye · 09-02-14, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jf3000

....there is nothing on this forum or the actual internet mentioning anything about Windows 8.1 and SH3.

Really? How about this thread? Twelve down from yours on the current page.

Anyone have SHIII on windows 8.1? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=215100

Or did you mean that you found nothing that was specific to your problem? That's a different matter. Certainly the topic of Win8.1 and all three of the SH games has come up repeatedly here on the SubSim forums. Sorry you haven't found anything helpful.

09-02-14, 02:54 AM	#1
jf3000 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Can't initialize 3d engine Windows 8 - Resolved Has been a very long time since I have been here, You last visited: 09-04-2011 at 09:12 PM, lots of new people. So I have been through the forum and red just about every post on how to fix this and yet I can't get it too work. I am using a monitor that goes far beyond that of 1024x768. I have tried using the files: dx9res10_2.zip and SH3_XPSP2_Res_Fix_for_1.4b.zip and both do nothing, the game just crashes. There is no option to rollback the driver to a previous driver since the machine requires the latest. How is one supposed to get this running on Windows 8, most of the threads related to Windows 7 which serves as pretty much the same, yet no solution. I am surprised there isn't a sticky for this annoying issue which has been going on for how long... Any help much appreciated, thank you. Last edited by jf3000; 09-02-14 at 02:45 PM.

09-02-14, 04:09 AM	#2
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Make sure you have your graphics at (I think) 59Hz (or it may be 60), and rename the start-up video file so it doesn't play a new launch. The finer details are around these parts somewhere, and as always I could be wrong. __________________

09-02-14, 04:21 AM	#3
jf3000 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Always run refresh rate and 60Hz and those video files whether they're wmv or bik I always rename. So I have tried the Conus' SH3GWX Widescreen Mod as well and get the same issue, I am sure that mod was never designed for the Steam version of this game, nonetheless it didnt work and same error. Last edited by jf3000; 09-02-14 at 04:41 AM.

09-02-14, 07:28 AM	#7
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	Have you installed DX 9.0c on your computer? SH3 needs DX 9.0c in order to run correctly. __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines

09-02-14, 07:33 AM	#8
jf3000 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	There is always a smart ass on this forum somewhere. Its clear that you don't know that D9 is not designed for a Windows 8 machine running 64 bit. __________________ GeGeek Developer

09-02-14, 04:58 AM	#4
Fubar2Niner Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London. UK Posts: 4,139 Downloads: 275 Uploads: 0	@jf3000 Graphics card nvidia per chance? Best regards. Fubar2Niner

09-02-14, 05:14 AM	#5
jf3000 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yes and I know about the issue with it and I can't rollback the driver its just not an option.

09-02-14, 06:27 AM	#6
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Another Steam-related issue? Uff da! Unless you are really strapped for cash, I'd suggest you invest $10 and get a download from Amazon. (Or the DVD if you are not in the US.) Then, at least you'll have a clean test bed. Most mods can be induced to work with the Steam version, but they require special handling. Desertstriker has a couple of tutorials on the subject. Have you tried running CONUS' widescreen mod at 1066x768? I have an NVidia 540M and that works for me. As for the hi-rez fixes, I never got anything to work except Van1920x1080. It works great. But it is written for NYGM and Hitman's GUI. Period. I am running on Win7 Home Premium. Don't know if that is similar enough to Win8 to be useful to you. Good luck.

09-02-14, 02:33 PM	#12
jf3000 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Its all good I have this running under Windows 8.1, none of the actions mentioned above work for Windows 8.1 since there is nothing on this forum or the actual internet mentioning anything about Windows 8.1 and SH3. For the last few hours and quite a few coffee's I have wrote my own DLL file which gives me the option to run SH3 in any resolution. Since my monitor goes outside the boundaries of 1024x768 because back in the day that was an extremely high res, my modification allows for the opposite and now running at 1824x1014. The DLL now injects into the sh3.exe and fools the application into thinking its running at a resolution of 1024x768. I thought I would atleast try here and see if there was still a fix for this terrible issue. This doesn't really help people who run outside the wall of 1024x768 and also asking users to revert back to an old driver for a lot of people is either out of the question, painful or I just don't know. Once I have enjoyed my time back on the ocean I will come back and post the application running under the latest .NET 4.5, options are very basic, select load to load the sh3.exe, click inject, choose the resolution or choose custom, click apply, window will appear with a loading bar, once complete will tell you its successfully injected, click the play button, SH3 loads fine. I did get this working under the Steam version, as someone suggested go and buy it off Amazon and download from there, since I had already bought it and the file structure was pretty much the same, I gave it a shot. Sorry for any ramblings I have made, I do have lots of respect for the people on here, especially the few of you as far back as 2006 and before that. Thanks for the help. __________________ GeGeek Developer