SC: Novice Level question

SirWilliam · 06-09-06, 12:34 AM

Finally got the game working, set everything to novice with all stations auto crew. I'm finding that, at least in the initial campaign mission, it is impossible for the sonar auto crew to ID targets or even to display on the map where they are consistently, they can just jump back and forth to positions 10k yards apart and even when the voice suddenly says "Mission cannot be completed" because I'm too close to one of the FFG's, they never even show up anywhere near 8k yards. Even when visually looking at something in the periscope it can suddenly change to something else altogether I'm finding. Is this normal for this game?

Is the game just unplayable with auto sonar crew? If so this isn't the game for me, I didn't want the game "Sonarman" heh, there's a reason they have special schools for that rate!

-SW

Linton · 06-09-06, 03:15 AM

This does not sound right at all.The autocrew is usually reliable but does need a little pushing sometimes.Are you playing with time compression on.This will make targets jump around.

Fish · 06-09-06, 06:28 AM

And do you have the latest patch (108) ?

SirWilliam · 06-09-06, 09:00 PM

Well I have used the time compression but only in short bursts. Perhaps I'll try again without using it at all. As for the patch, yes I do have 1.08.

Thanks for the replies, good to hear this isn't normal for the game, I'll give it another go shortly...

edit: BTW what do you mean Linton by "pushing" the autocrew? I have experimented with hitting the selectors for sphere/hull/towed, changing course/depth, and streaming/retracting the towed array, all in an effort to goad the auto crew into getting a more accurate fix, is this the kind of thing I should be doing?

Linton · 06-12-06, 05:05 PM

What I meant by pushing the auto crew is manually moving the index at the top of the narrowband and broadband displays and encouraging the autocrew to designate it as a contact.

Nexus7 · 06-14-06, 10:01 AM

Sonar autocrew wont tell you what it needs even if you don't supply him with it.

If you are in shallow waters and stream the TA but the TA touches the bottom it's like not deploying it.

If you maneuver a lot your TMA crew won't be able to generate a solid solution also.

Question, did you see Sierra(S##) contacts only or was the autocrew able to build some master (M##) contacts? Because almost always a master contact position is very close to the true position, with aTMA on.

SirWilliam · 06-14-06, 01:46 PM

Ah well I have been able to get a (very) few master contacts, however the vast majority seem to be S. Also even though I stay deep and keep my speed low, in the Seawolf I always hear "torpedo in the water" before I ever detect the Victor III that always seems to kill me, heh.

Just need more practice I guess!

Nexus7 · 06-14-06, 05:03 PM

I guess it's time you start to doing the sonarman job yourself then

06-09-06, 12:34 AM	#1
SirWilliam Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SC: Novice Level question Finally got the game working, set everything to novice with all stations auto crew. I'm finding that, at least in the initial campaign mission, it is impossible for the sonar auto crew to ID targets or even to display on the map where they are consistently, they can just jump back and forth to positions 10k yards apart and even when the voice suddenly says "Mission cannot be completed" because I'm too close to one of the FFG's, they never even show up anywhere near 8k yards. Even when visually looking at something in the periscope it can suddenly change to something else altogether I'm finding. Is this normal for this game? Is the game just unplayable with auto sonar crew? If so this isn't the game for me, I didn't want the game "Sonarman" heh, there's a reason they have special schools for that rate! -SW

06-09-06, 03:15 AM	#2
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This does not sound right at all.The autocrew is usually reliable but does need a little pushing sometimes.Are you playing with time compression on.This will make targets jump around. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

06-09-06, 09:00 PM	#4
SirWilliam Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well I have used the time compression but only in short bursts. Perhaps I'll try again without using it at all. As for the patch, yes I do have 1.08. Thanks for the replies, good to hear this isn't normal for the game, I'll give it another go shortly... edit: BTW what do you mean Linton by "pushing" the autocrew? I have experimented with hitting the selectors for sphere/hull/towed, changing course/depth, and streaming/retracting the towed array, all in an effort to goad the auto crew into getting a more accurate fix, is this the kind of thing I should be doing? Last edited by SirWilliam; 06-09-06 at 09:03 PM.

06-12-06, 05:05 PM	#5
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What I meant by pushing the auto crew is manually moving the index at the top of the narrowband and broadband displays and encouraging the autocrew to designate it as a contact. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

06-14-06, 10:01 AM	#6
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Sonar autocrew wont tell you what it needs even if you don't supply him with it. If you are in shallow waters and stream the TA but the TA touches the bottom it's like not deploying it. If you maneuver a lot your TMA crew won't be able to generate a solid solution also. Question, did you see Sierra(S##) contacts only or was the autocrew able to build some master (M##) contacts? Because almost always a master contact position is very close to the true position, with aTMA on. __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

06-09-06, 06:28 AM	#3
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And do you have the latest patch (108) ?

06-14-06, 01:46 PM	#7
SirWilliam Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ah well I have been able to get a (very) few master contacts, however the vast majority seem to be S. Also even though I stay deep and keep my speed low, in the Seawolf I always hear "torpedo in the water" before I ever detect the Victor III that always seems to kill me, heh. Just need more practice I guess!

06-14-06, 05:03 PM	#8
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I guess it's time you start to doing the sonarman job yourself then __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)