The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread - Page 108

Threesixtyci · 02-26-10, 02:32 PM

Looks like with Steam they require to be online while you play, even for single player mode. I don't like that, myself. Wonder if the boxed version will have the same DRM, or worse....

The text of the DRM is located on the right, on the bottom of the game details. Well, at least it doesn't have minimum installs. But what happens if my DSL goes down, while playing? Which does happen from time to time....
http://store.steampowered.com/app/901248/

bigboywooly · 02-26-10, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Threesixtyci

Looks like with Steam they require to be online while you play, even for single player mode. I don't like that, myself. Wonder if the boxed version will have the same DRM, or worse....

The text of the DRM is located on the right, on the bottom of the game details. Well, at least it doesn't have minimum installs. But what happens if my DSL goes down, while playing? Which does happen from time to time....
http://store.steampowered.com/app/901248/

Yes the boxed version requires you to be online also
Read any anti DRM thread in this forum

jwilliams · 02-26-10, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Threesixtyci

Looks like with Steam they require to be online while you play, even for single player mode. I don't like that, myself. Wonder if the boxed version will have the same DRM, or worse....

The text of the DRM is located on the right, on the bottom of the game details. Well, at least it doesn't have minimum installs. But what happens if my DSL goes down, while playing? Which does happen from time to time....
http://store.steampowered.com/app/901248/

Its the same DRM, also known as OSP (online service platform).

The game will pause if your DSL connection goes down. (hopefully it will allow you to save when it has paused, but that is unknown atm.).

Threesixtyci · 02-26-10, 02:42 PM

Well... guess I won't be buying this until Steam gives it away for 5 bucks. Probably happen on the next December holiday sale.

mw2000 · 02-26-10, 04:10 PM

Just read this over at softpedia.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

jwilliams · 02-26-10, 04:17 PM

I dont realy mind DRM, i've never had anythink bad happen from it (i know some claim DRM killed their DVD drive etc.).

But i do not like the online aspect of this new system (OSP). where will it end..... will i have to go online (and create accounts) to watch my DVD's, listen to my music CD's, play my console etc.

And then theres always the posiblity that the servers you connect to will be turned off, rendering all you digital media useless. It's happening already with some downloaded music DRM's.

So lets hope this "online only" idea has a very short life.

Rockin Robbins · 02-26-10, 04:25 PM

Has anyone considered that pirates succeed in large part because they release a superior product? Why was Ubi forced to release a previously pirated version of SH3? It was a superior product which consented to run on more hardware and without the aggravation of the original DRM.

Same with SH4. First Ubi released patch 1.3 with no DRM at all. Then for inexplicable reasons, they refanged SecuRom for the UBM release. It now scans your running processes for programs Sony doesn't like, including legitimate programs by Microsoft having nothing whatever to do with piracy. This invasion of my sovereignty is unacceptable.

Once the pirates are done with a program it runs quicker on more variations of hardware, is smaller, takes fewer system resources....it is just a superior product. If it were in Wal-Mart it would outsell the original.

Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold!

jwilliams · 02-26-10, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mw2000

Just read this over at softpedia.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

Ofcause they arnt going to patch out the DRM. Only if sales slow to a crawl or this new DRM is cracked are they going to patch it out ealier.
Because releasing a patch for the DRM would mean that theres no need for the DRM.

so those holding off until they can play offline will prob be waiting a long time... (unless SH5 get pirated) sales wont drop off for awhile. simulation games still sell well along time after release.

The Enigma · 02-26-10, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold!

Yeah, I just bought that version from Amazon, since I don't need to buy SH5 for the moment.

Archive1 · 02-26-10, 06:30 PM

Mookie...:
You're right - I should have just said "Europe" in my post above. In any case, my point regarding a seeming ignorance of things - grid failures and intemperate weather and power outages - in the US stands on it own.

Ilpalazzo · 02-26-10, 08:03 PM

Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.

Elder-Pirate · 02-26-10, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilpalazzo

Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.

No you do not have to go beyond page four and no it is not a lie and yes you will have to be connected to it's Majesty UBISOFT and again yes they will save your games. In other words whats yours is theirs and whats theirs is theirs also........or will be if you play their way.

Wait a couple more days and judgement day will be unfold.

IanC · 02-26-10, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate

Wait a couple more days and judgement day will be unfold.

admobadmo · 02-26-10, 09:44 PM

So then, and I'm not saying that it's good you understand, but does anybody miss the Spore version of drm yet? At the time it seemed like it would be all that was needed to finally make California fall off into the ocean. Suddenly doesn't seem quite as bad as it used to.

My other thought is, wouldn't it be nice if Stardock gets into the submarine simulation business now.

Elder-Pirate · 02-26-10, 10:06 PM

AWwwwwwww

Yes UBI judgement day is near.

Now back to the war zone.

02-26-10, 02:32 PM	#1606
Threesixtyci Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CC, Texas Posts: 114 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Steam DRM Looks like with Steam they require to be online while you play, even for single player mode. I don't like that, myself. Wonder if the boxed version will have the same DRM, or worse.... The text of the DRM is located on the right, on the bottom of the game details. Well, at least it doesn't have minimum installs. But what happens if my DSL goes down, while playing? Which does happen from time to time.... http://store.steampowered.com/app/901248/

02-26-10, 04:17 PM	#1611
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I dont realy mind DRM, i've never had anythink bad happen from it (i know some claim DRM killed their DVD drive etc.). But i do not like the online aspect of this new system (OSP). where will it end..... will i have to go online (and create accounts) to watch my DVD's, listen to my music CD's, play my console etc. And then theres always the posiblity that the servers you connect to will be turned off, rendering all you digital media useless. It's happening already with some downloaded music DRM's. So lets hope this "online only" idea has a very short life. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

02-26-10, 04:25 PM	#1612
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Has anyone considered that pirates succeed in large part because they release a superior product? Why was Ubi forced to release a previously pirated version of SH3? It was a superior product which consented to run on more hardware and without the aggravation of the original DRM. Same with SH4. First Ubi released patch 1.3 with no DRM at all. Then for inexplicable reasons, they refanged SecuRom for the UBM release. It now scans your running processes for programs Sony doesn't like, including legitimate programs by Microsoft having nothing whatever to do with piracy. This invasion of my sovereignty is unacceptable. Once the pirates are done with a program it runs quicker on more variations of hardware, is smaller, takes fewer system resources....it is just a superior product. If it were in Wal-Mart it would outsell the original. Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	*AWwww*wwww Yes UBI judgement day is near. Now back to the war zone. __________________

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02-26-10, 02:42 PM	#1609
Threesixtyci Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CC, Texas Posts: 114 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Well... guess I won't be buying this until Steam gives it away for 5 bucks. Probably happen on the next December holiday sale.

02-26-10, 04:10 PM	#1610
mw2000 Seaman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 41 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Just read this over at softpedia. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

02-26-10, 06:30 PM	#1615
Archive1 Commander Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington State south of Tacoma Posts: 462 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Mookie...: You're right - I should have just said "Europe" in my post above. In any case, my point regarding a seeming ignorance of things - grid failures and intemperate weather and power outages - in the US stands on it own.

02-26-10, 08:03 PM	#1616
Ilpalazzo Frogman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 309 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.

02-26-10, 09:44 PM	#1619
admobadmo Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So then, and I'm not saying that it's good you understand, but does anybody miss the Spore version of drm yet? At the time it seemed like it would be all that was needed to finally make California fall off into the ocean. Suddenly doesn't seem quite as bad as it used to. My other thought is, wouldn't it be nice if Stardock gets into the submarine simulation business now.